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Comment by dangus

2 days ago

First off, this claim that the start menu is written largely with web frameworks isn’t even verified:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44124688

It is supposedly still mostly Windows native XAML. Allegedly, even the components that use react are using react native for windows and are therefore not rendering any sort of resource-wasting web view.

I wrote my own react native phone app and it’s only a 30MB download. Your random comparison to a bulky chat app with an extensive feature list (the most popular culprits like Slack and Discord are not written in React Native, by the way) consuming a GB of RAM is irrelevant. Have you measured the start menu consuming 1GB of RAM? Unless you have, your argument is a whataboutism.

If you think it’s bad that Microsoft is using stuff that makes it easy for them to develop windows you should explain to me how it would be better for them to have extreme difficulty in making improvements like how the old control panel basically couldn’t be updated with any reasonable development cadence for decades while macOS ran circles around Windows for their clean settings experience, versus the new settings pane that Microsoft can actually iterate on and improve.

You can criticize the new settings panel for maybe not having 100% of what you want in it but you can’t criticize being a scary nightmare for novice users like the old version.

It is in the users’ benefit if Microsoft can actually hire people who are real humans and not just myths.

I am wasting my time, you are arguing in bad faith. I have installed windows 7 in a VM and everything takes less RAM not just the start menu and for most things it performs much much better. Start menu actually searches my files instantly, not with delay, not presenting web results, not presenting wrong results. It's doing its job.

Task manager opens immediately. Windows Explorer the same.

Those applications and the OS were written by real humans, not by myths. With your terribly bad argument it seems those OSes never happened since it required "extreme difficulty". No, it didn't require Einsteins. It required non-monkey coders.

You say you wrote your own react native phone app and it only takes 30MBs. So what? You forgot the most important part: what does it do? If it's a basic text editor then yes it's extremely bloated garbage.