Comment by oulipo2
2 days ago
You don't understand much if you think that to fight the lack of mentors for men, you have to put down women. It's completely orthogonal.
People in power want you to have this "I don't have what I want because this other minority takes it from me", but it's simply wrong, even though this argument seems to capture the mind of simple-minded people.
We don't have what we want because we're in a ruthless capitalist society, directed by stupidoes like Trump and Musk
> You don't understand much if you think that to fight the lack of mentors for men, you have to put down women. It's completely orthogonal.
Knee-jerk much? How on earth did you get "put down women" from what I wrote?
> People in power want you to have this "I don't have what I want because this other minority takes it from me", but it's simply wrong, even though this argument seems to capture the mind of simple-minded people.
Where did you read that in the tiny little snippet I wrote?
Let me be clear, so that there is no misunderstanding -
1. Men dominate the bottom of almost every ranking. This is just another ranking.
Maybe before we try to fix this specific ranking, we should be asking ourselves why men are at the bottom in every ranking.
> You don't understand much if you think that to fight the lack of mentors for men, you have to put down women
The reverse of this has been what's been dominating for a decade. Anything pro-men (or even just neutral) can be accused of being anti-woman, which creates a chilling effect as female-dominated HR departments can make life very difficult for men looking to provide for their families.
Absolutely untrue. Feminism has NEVER been against men. Only people who half-ass reading about feminism, and rely too much on stupid far-right videos on TikTok believe that
To be fair, no one person or even group defines "feminism", or "masculinity", or anything of the sort. It's a big cafeteria, and there's a lot of food to be flung around.
Ummm… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCUM_Manifesto seems pretty overtly against men.
(It’s literally the society for cutting up men)
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Discrimination along protected attributes such as gender would be highly illegal though, so no doubt you’d have tons of evidence to present beyond “gossipy HR ladies”.
I didn't mention gossip at all. Are you pretending to quote something I never said, to just perfectly illustrate the bad faith nonsense that is ever-injected into even simple conversations about this topic?
It might be worth Googling James Damore as an early example of this chilling effect.
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> to fight the lack of mentors for men, you have to put down women
For sure you don't have to put women as a whole down. But society and media these days are generally dominated by the most toxic voices. Toxic feminism is a big issue, that's what we have to put down for this particular purpose.