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Comment by fragmede

4 months ago

Just missing water and sewage and garbage/recycling, but a rural community does gain some independence via those things you mentioned.

I used to have a wooden cabin that was kind of on the edge of the forest. It did get municipal electricity and running water (which wasn't drinkable, it came from a nearby creek).

For waste, you have a septic tank, you get bottled water from the store next village (and gas canisters for cooking).

For garbage, we needed to collect it and take it to a recycling point a couple km away every week or so.

It was a surprisingly manageable level of hassle, and this is how people used to live not so long ago outside of cities.

You could've gotten far more automated with things like solar, greywater recycling etc.

Going totally off grid is likely very hard, but reducing your dependence on civilization to a once a week trip is pretty manageable.

  • right. I lived in a community in Hawaii, and I made regular trips into town for food and water. We got rain water but I still preferred spring water. We grew food but I still preferred the societal trips and benefits. I contributed to society and worked a full-time societal time remotely, and paid my taxes.

    I believe the future will be a return to efficiency via reducing dependence on the wasteful aspects of civilization which are many. I think we will see a constriction in our wasting and over consumption as a species but especially as Americans - maybe you agree we are seeing that right now.