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Comment by andsoitis

19 hours ago

” In Canada and the US, refusing to provide a PIN/password is protected as part of the right to avoid incriminating yourself. In France, they've criminalized this part of the right to remain silent.”

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NitpickLawyer  19 hours ago

> refusing to provide a PIN/password is protected

In theory. In practice there's a case where a defendant is being held in contempt (jailed) for years now, for refusing to provide her encryption passwords. At that point both the 5th and the idea of contempt are busted.

p0w3n3d  19 hours ago

Does it mean they do not respect democratic values in France?

  • exe34  19 hours ago

    Could you say a few words on what you think democracy is?

    • p0w3n3d  15 hours ago

      democratic values maybe more, because that's what I said. I'd say that every person is equal in law, every one can defend themselves and is not punished for not incriminating themselves.

      You know, I live in Poland, where up to 1989 when you were captured by police (which was called militia back then) they would beat the shit out of you or nag your family unless you incriminate yourself. And these were not democratic values. Basically the ruling system was authoritarian at that time. And I can see some similarities here between Poland pre 1989 and France nowadays.

      -- EDIT --

      Chat Control which was accepted by France is also really good connection to those times when your packages were being opened in the post office, if you were suspected by the one-party government. Also there was a time that all the phone calls were eavesdropped by security service.

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