Comment by AnthonyMouse
12 hours ago
> A small shop has own cctv to catch intruders = one thing. Local company installing cctv everywhere = different thing.
But that's the thing you were implying couldn't be distinguished. Every small shop having its own CCTV is different than one company having cameras everywhere, even if they both result cameras all over the place.
> "Malware exists and nobody can unexist it now because it's just code and data"
Which is accurate. Even if you tried to ban malware, or LLMs, they would still be produced by China et al. And malware is by definition bad, so you're also omitting the thing that matters again, which is that we should not ban the LLMs that aren't bad.
like LLM or NFT or killer drones, malware isn't bad for somebody. it is always about who it is benefits the most.
> the LLMs that aren't bad
which LLM is not made by stealing copyleft code?
> like LLM or NFT or killer drones, malware isn't bad for somebody.
Malware isn't bad for Russian crime syndicates, but we're generally content to regard them as the adversary and not care about their satisfaction. That isn't the case for someone who wants to use an LLM to fix a bug in their printer. They're doing the good work and people trying to stop them are the adversary.
> which LLM is not made by stealing copyleft code?
Let's drive a stake through this one by going completely the other way. Suppose you train an LLM only on GPL code, and all the people distributing and using it are only distributing its output under the GPL. Regardless of whether that's required, it's allowed, right? How would you accuse any of those people of a GPL violation?
You don't get to unilaterally make laws for the rest of us, which is what you are trying to do when you throw around terms like "stealing" in contexts where they have no legal meaning. Sorry.
If the incumbent copyright interests insist on picking an unnecessary fight with LLMs or AI in general, they will and must lose decisively. That applies to all of the incumbents, from FSF to Disney. Things are different now.