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Comment by dontlaugh

8 hours ago

The first step is to get your own domain. You can set that up in Apple Mail at first if it’s most convenient. Then you can get everything moved over.

After that it’s much easier to move provider again.

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john01dav  8 hours ago

How often do big providers like Gmail, customers of whom you will want to communicate with, eat the emails? I know that this is common if you run your own email server, and often just gone and not even to spam.

Google would probably justify this as security, and not necessarily unreasonably, but it has a clear anti-competitive effect too. The security concerns would be more credible if they made it easy to debug this, like giving a useful error message back to the sender stating what the missing security criteria are and having a clear process for appeals (like if you got unlucky with an IP address, or if you are missing a specific security measure on your domain).

  • seszett  7 hours ago

    You don't have to run your own server.

    My parents have a domain bought from OVH (they had to move away from their ancient ISP email address) and just use the free email service that goes with it. OVH is big enough that its email servers don't get blocked by the other main providers (it's a different matter if you host your own mail server on OVH servers) and they have not had any delivery problem.

    For myself, I run my own mail server and have not had delivery problems for years now (even changing servers, so it's not just a case of IP reputation improving over time).

    We do sometimes have delivery problems at work (also running our own mail servers, hosted at Scaleway) but it's to be expected at the kind of volume we have, it stays within quite acceptable levels.

  • Dusseldorf  8 hours ago

    Having your own domain connected to Apple Mail or Proton is fundamentally different than hosting your own email. Only the latter is at much risk of that.

  • dontlaugh  8 hours ago

    I haven’t caught it happening, at least not so far.

    I have my domain pointed at Apple Mail, though. That probably helps.