Comment by bediger4000
17 hours ago
I dunno, the Tea Party had a huge effect for its numbers, unlike No Kings, which has vanished from the media in 2 days, or 2010's Occupy movements, which we've memory holed entirely.
17 hours ago
I dunno, the Tea Party had a huge effect for its numbers, unlike No Kings, which has vanished from the media in 2 days, or 2010's Occupy movements, which we've memory holed entirely.
Maybe I'm just getting too old for such things but every protest I have seen after the Tea Party just looks like a bunch of unstables throwing tantrums. If I were their opposition it would just bolster my position and empower me to send in more troops. I think part of the root cause has to be modern movements just not really thinking things through. It probably does not help that NGO's are leaving piles of bricks on every corner and setting protestors up for escalation and failure. I think they should also have a way to root out the agent provocateurs and Antifa Reds/Yellows especially since most protests quickly escalate into riots which undermines their movements all together.
A lot of violence is intentionally instigated by police. You do know that, right? It is an explicit propaganda move to feed you the narrative that protestors are thugs and miscreants instead of upstanding citizens exercising their right to tell the government they disapprove.
It's in an authoritarian government's best interest to quell protests and convince you that protesting is not only ineffectual, but actually an act of terrorism.
every protest I have seen after the Tea Party just looks like a bunch of unstables throwing tantrums
I'm having trouble parsing this. Do you include the Tea Partiers in the bunch of unstables?
The No Kings protests have had virtually no arrests, and minimal violence, so I don't think I can personally include them in "throwing tantrums".
"after the Tea Party" means that they were one of the last legit protests in my eyes.
No Kings did not do anything to really get media attention. They were mostly well behaved but I did not take away any meaningful messages. Everyone knows that US presidents are not kings. At best they stretch the powers that were granted after 9/11 but they get replaced every few years and most of their actions can be quickly undone by the next deep state puppet.
To me it's just like bad management in a company. Bad managers/directors come and go. I can speed up their departure or just simply ignore them and wait for their replacement.
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The no kings message was undone by the fact that they had no kings protestors in European monarchies protesting an elected republican (little r) president.
Maybe no kings vanishing from the media is a feature, not a bug. I wouldn’t want a left wing movements that depended on media promotion, in fact I’d assume any left wing movement that was still in the media would be the failure. Media attention destroys left wing movements.
I also just generally think all movements work best locally. So yeah, throw a protest to build community, but I wouldn’t expect further efforts to be so visible.
Seven million people showed up for No Kings. And your metric is how long it grabbed media attention? Seven million people who cared enough to actually physically show up says that they're getting their message out just fine, and it's resonating with people, no matter how long the media spends on it.