Comment by jstummbillig
3 months ago
> Landing projects for Set Studio has been extremely difficult, especially as we won’t work on product marketing for AI stuff
If all of "AI stuff" is a "no" for you, then I think you just signed out off working in most industries to some important degree going forward.
This is also not to say that service providers should not have any moral standards. I just don't understand the expectation in this particular case. You ignore what the market wants and where a lot/most of new capital turns up. What's the idea? You are a service provider, you are not a market maker. If you refuse service with the market that exists, you don't have a market.
Regardless, I really like their aesthetics (which we need more of in the world) and do hope that they find a way to make it work for themselves.
> If all of "AI stuff" is a "no" for you, then I think you just signed out off working in most industries to some important degree going forward.
I'm not sure the penetration of AI, especially to a degree where participants must use it, is all that permanent in many of these industries. Already the industry where it is arguably the most "present" (forced in) is SWE and its proving to be quite disappointing... Where I work the more senior you are the less AI you use
Just the opposite where I work. Seniors are best positioned to effectively use AI and are using it enthusiastically.
Because senior devs always have to toe the line of every corporate fad or they are pushed out.
Yeah, gotta disagree with this one. Every senior and above around me have figured a workflow that makes their job faster. Internal usage dashboards say the same thing.
Fighting with anecdotes is as productive as always. Especially over trends.
The big issue is Ai isn't profitable. Streaming services is actuslly useful, but well see how that lasts.
Even if it isn't, the OP can still make hay while the sun is still shining, even if it'll eventually set, as the saying goes. But to not make hay and slowly see it set while losing your income, I won't ever understand that.
> what the market wants
Pretty sure the market doesn't want more AI slop.
Nobody that actually understands the market right now would say that
Nobody paid to pretend to actually understand the market would say that. They have a paycheck to get.
Meanwhile, actual consumer sentiment is at all time lows for AI.
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There is absolutely AI slop out there. Many companies rushed to add AI, a glorified chat bot to their existing product, and have marketed it as AI.
There is also absolutely very tasteful products that add value using LLM and other more recent advancements.
Both can exist at the same time.
>Both can exist at the same time.
They can. But I'm not digging in a swamp to find a gold nugget. Let me know when swamp is drained. Hopefully the nugget isn't drained with it.
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Pretty sure HN has become completely detached from the market at this point.
Demand for AI anything is incredible high right now. AI providers are constantly bouncing off of capacity limits. AI apps in app stores are pulling incredible download numbers.
If you only focus on money and not the actual societal effects, it's very easy to divorce yourself from society. Thars prerty much what billionaires have been doing for decades now.
Data centre's and the stock market are not humans. They are powered by humans who's incentives do not align with the betterment of humanity. Be careful looking down the green abyss.
I understand it as the market wanting more content about competing in an AI world
Sora's app has a 4.8 rating on the app store with 142K rating. It seems to me that the market does not care about slop or not, whether I like it or not.
>the market does not care about slop or not
Okay. Lemme know when they need to pay for it. A free app for a trillion dollar investment isn't the flex Altman wants to make it seem.
I don't understand why you're being downvoted, you're not wrong. I think Suno being successful bums me out, I really hate it, but people that are not me love it. I can't do anything about that.
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The market wants a lot more high quality AI slop and that's going to be the case perpetually for the rest of the time that humanity exists. We are not going back.
The only thing that's going to change is the quality of the slop will get better by the year.
>The market wants a lot more high quality AI slop
They sure aren't paying for it. It's great how we're on a business topic we're not talking about the fact that the market demand doesn't match the investment put into it.
> The market wants a lot more high quality AI slop
"High quality AI slop" is a contradiction in terms. The relevant definitions[1] are "food waste (such as garbage) fed to animals", "a product of little or no value."
By definition, the best slop is only a little terrible.
[1] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/slop