Comment by mannanj

right. I lived in a community in Hawaii, and I made regular trips into town for food and water. We got rain water but I still preferred spring water. We grew food but I still preferred the societal trips and benefits. I contributed to society and worked a full-time societal time remotely, and paid my taxes.

I believe the future will be a return to efficiency via reducing dependence on the wasteful aspects of civilization which are many. I think we will see a constriction in our wasting and over consumption as a species but especially as Americans - maybe you agree we are seeing that right now.