Comment by ImPostingOnHN
21 days ago
Anecdotal evidence isn't super useful here in preventing tragedy, because the people with negative anecdotes might be dead, and thus cannot give them.
To wit: Plenty of other tesla owners in a similar position as you, probably similarly praised the system, until it slammed them into a wall, car, or other obstacle, killing them.
The one good thing about death statistics is that they are difficult to hide or game the reporting thresholds.
https://www.tesladeaths.com/
Autopilot kills loads of people but my understanding is that autopilot is the dumb driver assist while FSD is the one that tries to solve general purpose driving.
Has FSD really only killed 2 people? FSD has driven 6 billion miles and the human driver death rate is 10 per billion so it has killed 2 where "as good as human" would mean 60. That seems really good tbh.
EDIT: and it looks like "deactivate before collision" doesn't work as a cheat, NHTSA requires reporting if it was active at any time within 30 seconds of the crash: https://www.nhtsa.gov/laws-regulations/standing-general-orde...
Yea, I believe the human miles without crash is something like 496,000, Tesla emergency intervention alone increases it to about 2 million and FSD is sitting at 6 million.
My biggest gripe with FSD is typically that it's too safe in a few situations where I would have gone a little sooner at an intersection.
EDIT: https://www.tesla.com/fsd/safety
Miles Driven Before Major Collision
699,000 - US Avg
972,000 - Teslas Driven Manually (no active safety features)
2.3 mil - Tesla Driven Manually (active safety features)
5.1 mil - Tesla Driven with FSD (supervised)
Miles Driven Before Minor Collision
229,000 - US Avg
308,000 - Teslas Driven Manually (no active safety features)
741,000 - Tesla Driven Manually (active safety features)
1.5 mil - Tesla Driven with FSD (supervised)