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Comment by cantagi

3 months ago

They have been removing features from the open source version for a while.

The closest alternative seems to be RustFS. Has anyone tried it? I was waiting until they support site replication before switching.

Garage is a popular alternative to Minio. https://garagehq.deuxfleurs.fr

I hadn't heard of RustFS and it looks interesting, although I nearly clicked away based on the sheer volume of marketing wank on their main page. The GitHub repo is here: https://github.com/rustfs/rustfs

  • We’ve done some fairly extensive testing internally recently and found that Garage is somewhat easier to deploy, but is not as performant at high speeds. IIRC we could push about 5 gigabits of (not small) GET requests out of it, but something blocked it from reaching the 20-25 gigabits (on a 25g NIC) that MinIO could reach (also 50k STAT requests/s)

    I don’t begrudge it that. I get the impression that Garage isn’t necessarily focussed on this kind of use case.

  • I use garage at home, single node setup. It's very easy and fast, I'm happy with it. You're missing out on a UI for it, but MountainDuck / CyberDuck solves that problem for me.

    • I’ve been using this https://github.com/khairul169/garage-webui as a UI for Garage. It’s been solid.

      After years of using Garage for S3 for the homelab I’d never pick anything else. Absolutely rock solid, no problem whatsoever. There isn’t ONE other piece of software I can say that about, not ONE.

      Major kudos to the guys at deuxfleurs. Merci beaucoup!

  • Yeah, that page is horrendous and looks super sketchy. It looks like a very professional fishing attempt to get unsuspecting developers to download malware.

    They have a lot of obviously fake quotes from non-existent people at positions that don’t even mention what company it is. The pictures are misgendered and even contain pictures of kids.

    Feels like the whole page is AI generated.

  • Speaking as an open-source enthusiast, I’m actually really digging RustFS. Honestly, anything that can replace or compete with MinIO is a win for the users. Their marketing vibe feels pretty American, actually—they aren't afraid to be loud and proud, haha. You gotta give it to them though, they’ve got guts, and their timing is spot on.

  • I saw an article here not long about where someone explained they were hosting their Kopia or Nextcloud aver Garage, but I can't find it anymore.

    This was going to be my next project, as I am currently storing my Kopia/Ente on MinIO in a non-distributed way. MinIO project going to shi*s is a good reason to take on this project faster than later.

I maintain an S3 client that has a test matrix for the commonly used S3 implementations. RustFS regularly breaks it. Last time it did I removed it from the matrix because deleteObject suddenly didn't delete the object any more. It is extremely unstable in its current form. The website states that it is not in a production-ready state, which I can confirm.

I'd take a look at garage (didn't try seaweed yet).

  • > I maintain an S3 client that has a test matrix for the commonly used S3 implementations.

    Is it open to the public? I'd like to check it out

If it is not an Apache/CNCF/LinuxFoundation project, it can be a rug pull aimed at using open source for getting people in the door only. They were never open for commits, and now they have abandoned open source altogether.

The Good: Single-node is stable, and the team moves fast—most of my reported bugs get patched within a couple of weeks. The Bad: Distributed mode needs work. Bucket replication and lifecycle policies are still WIP (as noted in their roadmap) and not usable yet.

It's promising, but definitely check the roadmap before deploying at scale.

Although promising, RustFS is a Chinese product. This would be a non-starter for many.

  • Because they aren't thinking about all the chinese wetware they'd be writing down that decision with.

From what I looked still very fresh project, to the point running out of date minio version will most likely be less problematic than latest rustfs

Sad to see these same people were behind GlusterFS.

  • Well, maybe they are using that experience to build something better this time around? One can hope...

    • Sure but trying to close source what has been opensource for a decade or trying to reduce features is very strange. I thought those people had higher standards.