Comment by cedws
2 months ago
The best thing Valve could do is nuke Wayland/X11/Xwayland from orbit. Wayland is a mess that apps still don't support and doesn't work with NVIDIA GPUs. X11 is ancient and screen tears. Xwayland is the worst of both worlds.
> Wayland is a mess that apps still don't support and doesn't work with NVIDIA GPUs
KDE supports Wayland: https://blogs.kde.org/2025/11/26/going-all-in-on-a-wayland-f...
Nvidia has had Wayland support for a while. Here are their latest beta drivers. The first item of the release notes is about Wayland: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/details/258750/
Is the problem in this relationship Wayland of Nvidia? It is a shame that GPU's are pretty much the one big part of your computer that doesn't really conform to the general "ownership" model.
What do you use or recommend?
I don't use Linux on laptops or desktops, only servers. I've been through all that pain. The userland has a long way to go to be a good OS everyone can use.
Since you don't have a recommendation, your criticism of X11/Wayland feels a bit hollow. You can just say you don't like Linux OSs instead.
You clearly didn't use Linux any time recently.
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No, thanks. That's the worst Android did, creating their own incompatible thing. We don't need another NIH like that.
Android is a much more successful platform than the Linux desktop.
And that only created a problem by making the impact of that rift worse. So we don't need even more of such effects. Ubuntu tried going there with Mir, but luckily they figured out it was a really bad idea in time.
Not as a desktop OS.
More?
Linux desktop is non-existant, compared to Android