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Comment by JoshTriplett

20 hours ago

> So now that h.264, h.265, and AV1 seem to be the three major codecs with hardware support, I wonder what will be the next one?

Hopefully AV2.

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jsheard  20 hours ago

H266/VVC has a five year head-start over AV2, so probably that first unless hardware vendors decide to skip it entirely. The final AV2 spec is due this year, so any day now, but it'll take a while to make it's way into hardware.

  • adgjlsfhk1  20 hours ago

    H266 is getting fully skipped (except possibly by Apple). The licensing is even worse than H265, the gains are smaller, and Google+Netflix have basically guaranteed that they won't use it (in favor of AV1 and AV2 when ready).

    • johncolanduoni  11 hours ago

      Did anybody, including the rightsholders, come out ahead on H265? From the outside it looked like the mutually assured destruction situation with the infamous mobile patents, where they all end up paying lawyers to demand money from each other for mostly paper gains.

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  • adzm  19 hours ago

    VVC is pretty much a dead end at this point. Hardly anyone is using it; it's benefits over AV1 are extremely minimal and no one wants the royalty headache. Basically everyone learned their lesson with HEVC.

    • ksec  9 hours ago

      It is being used in China and India for Streaming. Brazil chose it with LCEVC for their TV 3.0. Broadcasting industry is also preparing for VVC. So it is not popular as in Web and Internet is usage, but it is certainly not dead.

      I am eagerly awaiting for AV2 test results.

  • kevincox  19 hours ago

    If it has a five year start and we've seen almost zero hardware shipping that is a pretty bad sign.

    IIRC AV1 decoding hardware started shipping within a year of the bitstream being finalized. (Encoding took quite a bit longer but that is pretty reasonable)

  • shmerl  18 hours ago

    When even H.265 is being dropped by the likes of Dell, adoption of H.266 will be even worse making it basically DOA for anything promising. It's plagued by the same problems H.265 is.