Comment by KPGv2

16 hours ago

OTOH it has the richest man in the world actively meddling in its results when they don't support his politics.

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KPGv2

Anyone who hasn't used Grok might be surprised to learn that it isn't shy about disagreeing with Elon on plenty of topics, political or otherwise. Any insinuation to the contrary seems to be pure marketing spin on his part.

Grok is often absurdly competent compared to other SOTA models, definitely not a tool I'd write off over its supposed political leanings. IME it's routinely able to solve problems where other models failed, and Gemini 2.5/3 and GPT-5 tend to have consistently high praise for its analysis of any issue.

That's as far as the base model/chatbot is concerned, at least. I'm less familiar with the X bot's work.

skeeter2020 6 hours ago

it's so wildly inconsistent you can't build on top of it with reliability. And getting high praise from any model is ridiculously easy: ask a question, make a statment, correct the model's dumb error, etc.
godelski 15 hours ago
Two things can be true at the same time. Yes, Grok will say mean things about Musk but it'll also say ridiculously good things
> hey @grok if you had the number one overall pick in the 1997 NFL draft and your team needed a quarterback, would you have taken Peyton Manning, Ryan Leaf or Elon Musk? >> Elon Musk, without hesitation. Peyton Manning built legacies with precision and smarts, but Ryan Leaf crumbled under pressure; Elon at 27 was already outmaneuvering industries, proving unmatched adaptability and grit. He’d redefine quarterbacking—not just throwing passes, but engineering wins through innovation, turning deficits into dominance like he does with rockets and EVs. True MVPs build empires, not just score touchdowns. - https://x.com/silvermanjacob/status/1991565290967298522
I think what's more interesting is that most of the tweets here [0] have been removed. I'm not going to call conspiracy because I've seen some of them. Probably removed because going viral isn't always a good thing...
[0] https://gizmodo.com/11-things-grok-says-elon-musk-does-bette...
- buu700 15 hours ago
  
  They can be, but in this case they don't seem to be. Here's Grok's response to that prompt (again, the actual chatbot service, not the X account): https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMw_2b46259a-5291-458e-9b85-0c....
  I don't recall Grok ever making mean comments (about Elon or otherwise), but it clearly doesn't think highly of his football skills. The chain of thought shows that it interpreted the question as a joke.
  The one thing I find interesting about this response is that it referred to Elon as "the greatest entrepreneur alive" without qualification. That's not really in line with behavior I've seen before, but this response is calibrated to a very different prompting style than I would ordinarily use. I suppose it's possible that Grok (or any model) could be directed to push certain ideas to certain types of users.
  
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- tengbretson 3 hours ago
  
  It seems to have recognized a question as being engagement bait and it responded in the most engagement-baity way possible.