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Comment by hedora

8 hours ago

Around here, it’s Starlink >> Fiber >> Cable because our lines are above ground and outages are frequent.

Fiber is less expensive than and more than 10x faster than starlink, in fairness.

Our 5g towers seem to run off the fiber lines, so it’s not really a backup (and gets overwhelmed anyway).

I’m considering getting fiber in addition to starlink, but I wish they’d just buried the lines.

I see telephone trucks repairing downed lines we’d rely on many dozens of times a year. Digging a trench would probably pay for itself in a year or two.

> Digging a trench would probably pay for itself in a year or two.

I know some people running independent community fiber ISPs. Digging trenches can be a nightmare depending on the neighbourhood. You can have property ownership issues, other utilities being present, permit nightmares, different ground/soil types, etc. That ignores the fact that when somebody else digs they can hit your lines and repairing that is a pain.

Digging is better, though. But it’s not necessarily as easy as one may think.

  • Definitely a nightmare.

    Where I work just acquired new property and are deploying a new site. It took 9 months, from date of first contact, before the ISP could come out, bore under the road, and run fiber to our building from two poles away. And that's just a short ~500 feet underground run.

    I couldn't imagine the amount of permitting and logistics involved in trying to bury an entire run across town.

  • My community did the big dig around 2001. They finished around 2010. It was a huge project that took hundreds if not thousands of man-hours. I'm not sure if anyone ever actually calculated the total cost. And this is for a pretty small town. Now the day-to-day connectivity is much better, and weather almost never knocks us out, but when something does get knocked out, it takes longer to fix.

    Overall, it's much nicer. No ugly telephone poles, don't have to worry about weather, just reliable, strong service. But to think it pays for itself in 2 years is laughable.