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Comment by pcfwik

2 days ago

Since this is about C declarations: for anyone who (like me) had the misfortune of learning the so-called "spiral rule" in college rather than being taught how declarations in C work, below are some links that explain the "declaration follows use" idea that (AFAIK) is the true philosophy behind C declaration syntax (and significantly easier to remember/read/write).

TL;DR: you declare a variable in C _in exactly the same way you would use it:_ if you know how to use a variable, then you know how to read and write a declaration for it.

https://eigenstate.org/notes/c-decl https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12775966

if you know how to use a variable, then you know how to read and write a declaration for it.

In other words, the precedence of operators in a declaration have exactly the same precedence as in its use.

That is correct.

  int x, *p, arr[5], fn(), (*pfn)();

Using x, or dereferencing p, or subscripting the array arr, or declaring a function that can be called with fn, or dereferencing the function pointer pfn then calling it, all these things would produce an int.

It's the intended way to read/write declarations/expressions. As a consequence, asterisks ends up placed near the identifiers. The confused ones will think it's a stylistic choice and won't understand any of this.

  • Of course, the correct way to use a function pointer is to call it.

    • Yes, the () operator dereference function pointers automatically for you for convenience. There's also the surprise that you can infinitely dereference function pointers as they just yield you more function pointers.

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  • > It's the intended way to read/write declarations/expressions. As a consequence, asterisks ends up placed near the identifiers.

    You know you don't always have to use things as they were intended?

    > The confused ones will think it's a stylistic choice and won't understand any of this.

    Well, I've written it both ways, and the compiler never seems to mind. :)

    Maybe I should start putting space on both sides of the asterisk; seems like it would be a good way to annoy even more people.