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Comment by arilotter

6 hours ago

This title is moderately clickbait-y and comes with a subtle implication that Rust might be getting removed from the kernel. IMO it should be changed to "Rust in the kernel is no longer experimental"

I absolutely understand the sentiment, but LWN is a second-to-none publication that on this rare occasion couldn't resist the joke, and also largely plays to an audience who will immediately understand that it's tongue-in-cheek.

Speaking as a subscriber of about two decades who perhaps wouldn't have a career without the enormous amount of high-quality education provided by LWN content, or at least a far lesser one: Let's forgive.

  • > on this rare occasion couldn't resist the joke

    It was unintentional as per author

    > Ouch. That is what I get for pushing something out during a meeting, I guess. That was not my point; the experiment is done, and it was a success. I meant no more than that.

    • The “Ouch.” was in reference to being compared to Phoronix.

      Has anyone found them to be inaccurate, or fluffy to the point it degraded the content?

      I haven’t - but then again, probably predominantly reading the best posts being shared on aggregators.

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  • Fair. But there’s even an additional difference between snarky clickbait and “giving the exact opposite impression of the truth in a headline” ;)

If it was being removed the title would be "An update on rust in the kernel"

I think on HN, people generally want the submission's title to match the page's title.

(I do agree it's clickbait-y though)

  • I think on HN, people waste too much time arguing about the phrasing of the headline, whether it is clickbait, etc. and not enough discussing the actual substance of the article.

  • I prefer improved titles. However, not in this case. It is rather irony, because LWN does not need click-bait.

    • This one is apparently a genuine mistake from the author. But I think we should leave it as it is. The confusion and the argument about it is interesting in itself.

It’s a bit clickbait-y, but the article is short, to the point, and frankly satisfying. If there is such a thing as good clickbait, then this might be it. Impressive work!

  • Might as well just post it:

      The topic of the Rust experiment was just discussed at the annual Maintainers Summit. The consensus among the assembled developers is that Rust in the kernel is no longer experimental — it is now a core part of the kernel and is here to stay. So the "experimental" tag will be coming off. Congratulations are in order for all of the Rust-for-Linux team.

  • Perhaps, except it can have the reverse effect. I was surprised, disappointed, and then almost moved on without clicking the link or the discussion. I'm glad I clicked. But good titles don't mislead! (To be fair, this one didn't mislead, but it was confusing at best.)

I'm having deja Vu. Was there another quite similar headline here a few weeks or so ago?