Comment by lmm
14 hours ago
> Obviously not
Is it obvious? I haven't heard of new projects in non-memory-safe languages lately, and I would think they would struggle to attract contributors.
14 hours ago
> Obviously not
Is it obvious? I haven't heard of new projects in non-memory-safe languages lately, and I would think they would struggle to attract contributors.
New high-scale data infrastructure projects I am aware of mostly seem to be C++ (often C++20). A bit of Rust, which I’ve used, and Zig but most of the hardcore stuff is still done in C++ and will be for the foreseeable future.
It is easy to forget that the state-of-the-art implementations of a lot of systems software is not open source. They don’t struggle to attract contributors because of language choices, being on the bleeding edge of computer science is selling point enough.
There's a "point of no return" when you start to struggle to hire anyone on your teams because no one knows the language and no one is willing to learn. But C++ is very far from it.
There's always someone willing to write COBOL for the right premium.
I'm working on Rust projects, so I may have incomplete picture, but I'm from what I see when devs have a choice, they prefer working with Rust over C++ (if not due to the language, at least due to the build tooling).
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Game development, graphics and VFX industry, AI tooling infrastructure, embedded development, Maker tools like Arduino and ESP32, compiler development.
https://github.com/tigerbeetle/tigerbeetle
Zig at least claims some level of memory safety in their marketing. How real that is I don't know.
About as real as claiming that C/C++ is memory safe because of sanitizers IMHO.
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I'm unaware of any such marketing.
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I have heard different arguments, such as https://zackoverflow.dev/writing/unsafe-rust-vs-zig/ .
Out of curiosity, do the LLMs all use memory safe languages?
Whenever the public has heard about the language it's always been Python.
The language that implements Python's high-speed floating point has often been FORTRAN.
https://fortranwiki.org/fortran/show/Python
With lots of CUDA C++ libraries, among others.
Llama.cpp is called Llama.cpp, so there’s that…