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Comment by gjajric

6 hours ago

Steve Klabnik?

Either way, that survey (you could have linked to it) has some issues.

https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2025/technology#most-popular...

Select the "Learning to Code" tab.

> Which programming, scripting, and markup languages have you done extensive development work in over the past year, and which do you want to work in over the next year? (If you both worked with the language and want to continue to do so, please check both boxes in that row.)

It describes two check marks, yet only has a single statistic for each language. Did StackOverflow mess up the question or data?

The data also looks suspicious. Is it really the case that 44.6% of developers learning to code have worked with or want to work with C++?

Oh I agree the survey has issues, I was just thinking about how each year the stats get more questionable! I just think it shows that interest in Rust doesn't come only from people with a C++ codebase to rewrite. Half of all devs have got less than five years of experience with any toolchain at all, let alone C++, yet many want to give Rust a try. I do think there will be a generational split there.

> Steve Klabnik?

Thankfully no. I've actually argued with him a couple times. Usually in partial agreement, but his fans will downvote anyone who mildly disagrees with him.

Also, I'm not even big on Rust: every single time I've tried to use it I instinctively reached for features that turned out to be unstable, and I don't want to deal with their churn, so I consider the language still immature.

  • Steve Klabnik, why do you cite a survey, and then turn around in the next post and begin to be skeptical about that survey?

    • Okay I had upvoted you but now you're just being an asshole. Predictable from someone on multiple fucking throwaways created just to answer on a single post and crap on a piece of tech I suppose; I don't even care much about Rust. And I'm sorry to inform you I'm not Klabnik, but delusions are free: Maybe you think everyone using -nik is actually the same person and you've uncovered a conspiracy. Congrats on that.

      I'd shove you a better data point but people aren't taking enough surveys for our sake, that's the one we've got. Unless you want to go with Jetbrains', which, spoilers, skews towards technologies supported by Jetbrains; I'm not aware of other major ones.

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