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Comment by sosodev

4 days ago

Does Qwen3-Omni support real-time conversation like GPT-4o? Looking at their documentation it doesn't seem like it does.

Are there any open weight models that do? Not talking about speech to text -> LLM -> text to speech btw I mean a real voice <-> language model.

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It does support real-time conversation! Has anybody here gotten that to work on local hardware? I'm particularly curious if anybody has run it with a non-nvidia setup.

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potatoman22  4 days ago

From what I can tell, their official chat site doesn't have a native audio -> audio model yet. I like to test this through homophones (e.g. record and record) and asking it to change its pitch or produce sounds.

  • dragonwriter  4 days ago

    “record and record”, if you mean the verb for persisting something and the noun for the thing persisted, are heteronyms (homographs which are not homophones), which incidentally is also what you would probably want to test what you are talking about here (distinguishing homophones would test use of context to understand meaning, but wouldn’t test anything about whether or not logic was working directly on audio or only working on text processed from audio, failing to distinguish heteronyms is suggestive of processing occurring on text, not audio directly.)

  • sosodev  4 days ago

    Huh, you're right. I tried your test and it clearly can't understand the difference between homophones. That seems to imply they're using some sort of TTS mechanism. Which is really weird because Qwen3-Omni claims to support direct audio input into the model. Maybe it's a cost saving measure?

    • sosodev  4 days ago

      Weirdly, I just tried it again and it seems to understand the difference between record and record just fine. Perhaps if there's heavy demand for voice chat, like after a new release, they load shed by using TTS to a smaller model.

      However, It still doesn't seem capable of producing any of the sounds, like laughter, that I would expect from a native voice model.

  • djtango  4 days ago

    Is record a homophone? At least in the UK we use different pronunciations for the meanings. Re-cord for the verb, rec-ord for the noun.

red2awn  4 days ago

None of inference frameworks (vLLM/SGLang) supports the full model, let alone non-nvidia.

ivape  4 days ago

That's exciting. I doubt there are any polished voice chat local apps yet that you can easily plug this into (I doubt the user experience is "there" yet). Even stuff like Silly Tavern is near unusable, lots of work to be done on the local front. Local voice models are what's going to enable that whole Minority Report workflow soon enough (especially if commands and intent are determined at the local level, and the meat of the prompt is handled by a larger remote model).

This is part of programming that I think is the new field. There will be tons of work for those that can build the new workflows which will need to be primarily natural language driven.