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Comment by raxxorraxor

5 days ago

How was this not targeted? I was the most targeted military operation we know of. Give me any example of anything in warfare that is close to that.

This was about as targeted as anti-personnel landmines, but spread out in civilian areas and detonated without any knowledge of their surroundings at the time.

Because mines are untargeted and designed to maim without discrimination as to who they might hurt there is a long running effort to prohibit their use.

  • Hezbollah pagers aren't randomly lying around though, they're normally attached to Hezbollah members. These were also much smaller than any anti personnel mine.

    This was far more targeted than, say, any artillery strike that a commander could possibly order. Targeted doesn't mean it's impossible to harm something else. That's possible with any weapon, and far more likely with larger munitions like artillery shells.

    • Hezbollah members include medical personnel, teachers, politicians and so on. It is a much larger group of organisations than the armed factions.

      I'm not sure what you're after. What the israelis did would have been a worse crime if it actually was targeted. Is that your point?

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  • No, the messengers were specifically delivered to Hezbollah leadership. It is not even closely comparable.

    • They were widely distributed and there was no way for the israelis to know where they were when they detonated them, which they likely did out of desperation and not because they had good reason to believe they were in such and such a position.

      It is fucking grim to incessantly defend state terrorism.

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Firing a projectile at an individual combatant?

  • Projectiles hit the wrong target all the time. Especially when we get into artillery or air strikes where there's no line of sight to a uniformed soldier, commanders can't be sure if they're going to hit the intended target. That's why we have the principle of proportionality rather than an impossible standard of zero collateral damage.

    • But surely "the most targeted strike of all time" would be "a single-target strike on a visually confirmed intended individual", right? Or at least that would be more targeted than any strike without LoS?

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