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Comment by amanaplanacanal

1 month ago

They are probably like me: if punctuation isn't on my keyboard, I don't use it.

[AltGr][Shift][-]

Without shift it's an en dash (–), with shift an em dash (—). Default X11 mapping for a German keyboard layout, zero config of mine.

>They are probably like me: if punctuation isn't on my keyboard, I don't use it.

LPT: on Android, pressing and holding a punctuation key on the on-screen keyboard reveals additional variations of it — like the em-dash, for example.

This is the №1 feature I expect everyone to know about (and explore!), but, alas, it doesn't appear to be the case even on Hackernews¹.

On Windows, pressing Win+. pops up an on-screen character keyboard with all the symbols one may need (including math symbols and emojis).

MacOS has a similar functionality IIRC.

And let's not forget that software like MS Word automatically correct dashes to em-dashes when appropriate — and some people may simply prefer typing text in a word processor and copy-pasting from it.

Anyway...

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¹ For example, holding "1" yields the superscript version, enabling one to format footnotes properly with less effort than using references in brackets², yet few people choose to do that.

² E.g. [2]

Yeah, this is what I don't understand, surely people aren't "using" em dashes deliberately. I assumed MS word was just inserting them automatically when the user used a minus symbol between two words. Kind of like angled quotes.

  • I've been using em dashes for much longer than transformers have existed. It's easily accessible on at least the Android and macOS keyboards.

  • I use them when they're easy to type. For me, that's on Android, macOS, and anywhere I've configured a compose key.

    Angled quotes I use only on systems on which I've configured a compose key, or Android when I'm typing Chinese.

    I don't like any kind of auto-replacement with physical keyboards, so I turn off "smart quotes" on macOS.

    Anyway I use characters like that all the time, but it's never auto-replace.

  • > surely people aren't "using" em dashes deliberately

    I've had a "trigger finger" for Alt+0151 on Windows since 2010 at least.

    • When I worked in company that did content marketing and had a lot of writers, one of the coffee mugs they gave to us had Alt+0151 in it!

      Em-Dash was really popular with professional writers.

  • > surely people aren't "using" em dashes deliberately

    I am, it's on the default German X11 keyboard layout. Same for · × ÷ …

    And that's without going to the trusty compose key (Caps Lock for me)… wonders like ½ and H₂O await!