Comment by reactordev
2 days ago
This made me laugh a bit as I remembered people saying “Oh we have Nadella now, things have changed”. Have they? Have they really?
Windows Recall.
VS Code forcing Copilot.
Windows forcing Copilot.
Office forcing Copilot.
Azure forcing Copilot.
GitHub forcing Copilot.
Outlook forcing Copilot.
Edge forcing Copilot.
You folks are insane.
"Just" some Copilot integration (in the form of chat or smart suggestions) is just the start.
The next major Windows 11 update coming in 2026 will have full agentic AI with full control over your (your?) PC. And it will hard require a pretty recent processor with Neural Processor Unit to make it work (so a lot more e-waste is coming).
I fear for the future.
> And it will hard require a pretty recent processor with Neural Processor Unit to make it work
Am I right to understand that as people don't upgrade their hardware, they're safe from that, right? Sounds like a plus to me.
Nope, you go to upgrade, because windows update downloaded it and restarted, and it tells you “Your processor is not supported”.
Why would it be any different than the Windows 7 -> Windows 10 debacle? Disabling entire processor families after it boots into installation and wiped the previous windows.
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Lots of people are now upgrading hardware because of the end of standard Windows 10 updates
They have for a while, basically it was similar honeymoon phase like when Apple needed every developer help they could get back in 2000.
Unfortunately both of them are back to their old selfs.
However lets not forget that those big corporations, are the same ones that keep the lights on across many FOSS projects that get talked daily on HN.
You forgot that even poor old notepad.exe also got the Copilot treatment.
Fuck did it really? How on earth does that pan out? Who uses notepad? Writers? Word. Coders? Vim or VSCode or <IDE of choice>. I just don’t understand their logic.
They make this beautiful pasture (Windows XP wallpaper) and then lay mines all over the field. Put up signs that say “Free Lemonade” and charge for parking.
Lots of people do use Notepad as a digital notepad. Random texts, mostly, or as a clipboard manager. It used to start really fast.
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...and paint.
NO! really? Are you just kidding, right?
(I'm on an older server version, so I do not know)
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I've heard Github makes more money from copilot than everything else combined. You can think what you want about the strategy, but it's hard to ignore that.
Easy when it’s forced onto every enterprise agreement and enabled by default in every vs code. C’mon man. You’re smarter than this.
But enterprises may negotiate not to use (and pay) Copilot, can't they? Or go with another provider if it's such a big deal. Plus it being enabled by default in every VS Code (I haven't checked this, last I remember you need to sign in with GitHub) gets you on the free tier where you make zero revenue for Microsoft and some expense (not too much, probably).
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There is not Copilot, only Zuul.
I’m not sure why people are surprised. If you watch Nadella interviews, he tells you what he thinks and where he wants to take the company.
He touts AI, services, agentic copilot, and all the other stuff customers are railing against.
Some Windows manager got crucified on X recently for an enthusiastic tweet about turning Windows into an agentic OS. People called for this persons firing. But, this was straight out of Nadella’s playbook.
Windows users are not customers. Businesses are. Tech conglomerates and everyone adjacent are going for the big money, it's what everyone is doing , it really is a fantastic world devoid of anything but ROI numbers. The fastest way to get rich or die trying, gangstas got nothing on these cats.
I'm doubtful many businesses are requesting many of these features.
I don't think it's wise for them to want stuff like Recall (data exfiltration) or current state of the art agents doing calculations or analysis for them -- at least without a qualified human closely reviewing it's output and conclusions.
I do see businesses wanting simpler, more reliable software with fluid and consistent interfaces, but MSFT isn't focusing on that.
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The bit that really annoyed me: you can't even remove the Copilot button from the Office ribbon any more. Microsoft simply have hidden the option in the Ribbon customisation settings.
Even though I don't use it, and have disabled as much Copilot functionality as Microsoft will let me.
I can't wait for this AI bubble to burst.