← Back to context Comment by bigwheels 1 day ago And why can't the symbol be a regular old uppercase "K"? Who is this helping? 11 comments bigwheels Reply infogulch 1 day ago Unicode wants to be able to preserve round-trip re-encoding from this other standard which has separate letter-K and degree-K characters. Making these small sacrifices for compatibility is how Unicode became the defacto world standard. shiomiru 1 day ago The "other standard" in this case being IBM-944. (At least looking at https://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode1.0.0/ch06.pdf p. 574 (=110 in the PDF) I only see a mapping from U+212A to that one.) kahirsch 1 day ago The ICU mappings files have entries for U212A in the following files: gb18030.ucm ibm-1364_P110-2007.ucm ibm-1390_P110-2003.ucm ibm-1399_P110-2003.ucm ibm-16684_P110-2003.ucm ibm-933_P110-1995.ucm ibm-949_P110-1999.ucm ibm-949_P11A-1999.ucm infogulch 1 day ago [flagged] 1 reply → oneshtein 16 hours ago A symbol may look differently than original letter, for example N - №, € - E (Є), S - $, integral, с - ©, TM - ™, a - @, and so on.However, those symbols doesn't have lower case variants. Moreover, lower case k means kilo-, not a «smaller Kelvin». bee_rider 1 day ago I think just using uppercase Latin K is the recommendation.But, I dunno. Why would anybody apply upper or lower case operators to a temperature measurement? It just seems like a nonsense thing to do. zygentoma 1 day ago Maybe not for text to be read again, but might be sensible e.g. for slug or file name generation and the like... Eisenstein 1 day ago I wonder if you can register a domain with it in the name. ahoka 1 day ago Probably useful in a non-latin codeset? UltraSane 1 day ago having a dedicated Kelvin symbol preserves the semantics.
infogulch 1 day ago Unicode wants to be able to preserve round-trip re-encoding from this other standard which has separate letter-K and degree-K characters. Making these small sacrifices for compatibility is how Unicode became the defacto world standard. shiomiru 1 day ago The "other standard" in this case being IBM-944. (At least looking at https://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode1.0.0/ch06.pdf p. 574 (=110 in the PDF) I only see a mapping from U+212A to that one.) kahirsch 1 day ago The ICU mappings files have entries for U212A in the following files: gb18030.ucm ibm-1364_P110-2007.ucm ibm-1390_P110-2003.ucm ibm-1399_P110-2003.ucm ibm-16684_P110-2003.ucm ibm-933_P110-1995.ucm ibm-949_P110-1999.ucm ibm-949_P11A-1999.ucm infogulch 1 day ago [flagged] 1 reply →
shiomiru 1 day ago The "other standard" in this case being IBM-944. (At least looking at https://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode1.0.0/ch06.pdf p. 574 (=110 in the PDF) I only see a mapping from U+212A to that one.) kahirsch 1 day ago The ICU mappings files have entries for U212A in the following files: gb18030.ucm ibm-1364_P110-2007.ucm ibm-1390_P110-2003.ucm ibm-1399_P110-2003.ucm ibm-16684_P110-2003.ucm ibm-933_P110-1995.ucm ibm-949_P110-1999.ucm ibm-949_P11A-1999.ucm infogulch 1 day ago [flagged] 1 reply →
kahirsch 1 day ago The ICU mappings files have entries for U212A in the following files: gb18030.ucm ibm-1364_P110-2007.ucm ibm-1390_P110-2003.ucm ibm-1399_P110-2003.ucm ibm-16684_P110-2003.ucm ibm-933_P110-1995.ucm ibm-949_P110-1999.ucm ibm-949_P11A-1999.ucm
oneshtein 16 hours ago A symbol may look differently than original letter, for example N - №, € - E (Є), S - $, integral, с - ©, TM - ™, a - @, and so on.However, those symbols doesn't have lower case variants. Moreover, lower case k means kilo-, not a «smaller Kelvin».
bee_rider 1 day ago I think just using uppercase Latin K is the recommendation.But, I dunno. Why would anybody apply upper or lower case operators to a temperature measurement? It just seems like a nonsense thing to do. zygentoma 1 day ago Maybe not for text to be read again, but might be sensible e.g. for slug or file name generation and the like... Eisenstein 1 day ago I wonder if you can register a domain with it in the name.
zygentoma 1 day ago Maybe not for text to be read again, but might be sensible e.g. for slug or file name generation and the like...
Unicode wants to be able to preserve round-trip re-encoding from this other standard which has separate letter-K and degree-K characters. Making these small sacrifices for compatibility is how Unicode became the defacto world standard.
The "other standard" in this case being IBM-944. (At least looking at https://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode1.0.0/ch06.pdf p. 574 (=110 in the PDF) I only see a mapping from U+212A to that one.)
The ICU mappings files have entries for U212A in the following files:
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A symbol may look differently than original letter, for example N - №, € - E (Є), S - $, integral, с - ©, TM - ™, a - @, and so on.
However, those symbols doesn't have lower case variants. Moreover, lower case k means kilo-, not a «smaller Kelvin».
I think just using uppercase Latin K is the recommendation.
But, I dunno. Why would anybody apply upper or lower case operators to a temperature measurement? It just seems like a nonsense thing to do.
Maybe not for text to be read again, but might be sensible e.g. for slug or file name generation and the like...
I wonder if you can register a domain with it in the name.
Probably useful in a non-latin codeset?
having a dedicated Kelvin symbol preserves the semantics.