Google doesn't have to do that now after already having established its own monopoly... just like SerpApi wouldn't have to act deceptively if they had a monopoly on search.
Because they've forced everyone to allow them. They're the internet traffic mafia. Block them and you disappear from the internet
They abuse this power to scrape your work, summarize it and cut you out as much as possible. Pure value extraction of others' work without equal return. Now intensified with AI
nobody is forcing anyone. This is the same argument that people said about google search. Nobody is forcing anyone to use google search, google chrome, or even allow googlebot for scraping.
Thousands of poeple have switched over to chatgpt, brave/firefox ..
Your argument sounds like "I dont like Apple's practices, and I'm forced to buy iPhones. No buddy, if you dont like Apple, dont buy their products"
It's actually a different crawler for training data: Googlebot-extended so you can exclude yourself from the training data though not the search summaries.
Google doesn't have to do that now after already having established its own monopoly... just like SerpApi wouldn't have to act deceptively if they had a monopoly on search.
Because they've forced everyone to allow them. They're the internet traffic mafia. Block them and you disappear from the internet
They abuse this power to scrape your work, summarize it and cut you out as much as possible. Pure value extraction of others' work without equal return. Now intensified with AI
But yeah, you're right. They're not deceptive
> Because they've forced everyone to allow them.
nobody is forcing anyone. This is the same argument that people said about google search. Nobody is forcing anyone to use google search, google chrome, or even allow googlebot for scraping.
Thousands of poeple have switched over to chatgpt, brave/firefox ..
Your argument sounds like "I dont like Apple's practices, and I'm forced to buy iPhones. No buddy, if you dont like Apple, dont buy their products"
> Thousands of poeple have switched over to chatgpt, brave/firefox ..
If you want people to visit your website, limiting yourself to the "thousands" of people who don't use google isn't really an option.
> Your argument sounds like "I dont like Apple's practices, and I'm forced to buy iPhones. No buddy, if you dont like Apple, dont buy their products"
Well, I don't like Apple's or Google's practices, but I basically [1] have to use either iOS or Android.
[1]: yes there are things like GrapheneOS and librem, but those aren't really practical for most people.
> Your argument sounds like "I dont like Apple's practices, and I'm forced to buy iPhones. No buddy, if you dont like Apple, dont buy their products"
No, not really. There are alternatives to Apple. Whereas here Google controls the gate to the majority of internet traffic
For many it's "block Google and your business dies"
What about for their LLM products? We know that OpenAi does not respect the robots.txt file
Google uses the same crawler and robots.txt file for training data.
It's actually a different crawler for training data: Googlebot-extended so you can exclude yourself from the training data though not the search summaries.