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Comment by scotty79

3 days ago

Also sodium batteries are coming to the market at a fraction of the cost.

"We’re matching the performance of [lithium iron phosphate batteries] at roughly 30% lower total cost of ownership for the system." Mukesh Chatter, cofounder and CEO, Alsym Energy

I see this as complementary to other energy storage systems, including sodium ion batteries; each will have its own strengths and weaknesses. I expect energy storage density cost will be the critical parameter here, as this looks best suited to do diurnal storage for solar power systems near out-of-town predictable power consumers like data centers.

  • Maintenance of the system is my biggest question. Lot of mechanical complexity with ensuring your gas containment, compressors, turbines, etc are all up to spec. This also seems like a system where you want to install the biggest capacity containment you can afford at the onset.

    All of that vs lithium/sodium where you can incrementally install batteries and let it operate without much concern. Maybe some heaters if they are installed in especially cold climates.

    • > Maybe some heaters if they are installed in especially cold climates.

      Sodium batteries can operate down to -40C. There are very few places on Earth where they would need a heater.

    • Don't even really need notable heaters if you regulate your thermal vents enough.

    • from the picture, the compressor and generator located inside the dome. the dome is filled with CO2. maintenance people have to carry oxygen tank, or they die.

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Sodium batteries will take 15 years to overtake LFPs cost. Stop gargling on hype please.

  • That seems unlikely since they can use the same factories and the raw material cost is significantly lower.

    • It's not panacea. Only lithium vs sodium is cheaper and they can use lower grade graphite which is just slightly cheaper (overall 30% reduction). Rest is same while it's a new manufacturing process. Meanwhile 99.99% production is focused and will be continued focused LFP.

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