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Comment by krainboltgreene

2 days ago

Yeah man I don't think co-op fisheries are the problem here.

> don't think co-op fisheries are the problem here

Co-op fisheries are owned by the co-op. They aren’t a problem and regulate access.

Common heritage fisheries are trawled unregulated because when everyone owns something, nobody owns it.

For the communist model to work, the state has to own everything. Which in practice means apparatchiks control everything.

  • > For the communist model to work, the state has to own everything.

    At first I used co-op's because I just assumed you meant democratically controlled companies rather than "communism" and now I know you don't know what communism means.

    "state has to own anything" is an extremely funny idea for a stateless society.

    • > "state has to own anything" is an extremely funny idea for a stateless society

      Within a realistic geopolitical framework, it’s really not.

      What Marx have you read? It's one thing to be ignorant. It's another to throw out quips like 'now I know you don't know what communism means' and then spout a faulty internet meme of an idea one is trying to relate to.

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  • We could finally try finish the experiment Allende started before the CIA couped away a democratically elected president.

    Do something like project Cybersyn [0], but give all decision making to a digital planning engine.

    No humans, no apparatchiks.

    [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Cybersyn

    • That's so naive. Economic central planning is a fool's errand. Regardless of how good the computers are, it can never work because it's impossible to gather accurate demand data. Only free market economics can ever work at scale over the long term.

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