Comment by BeetleB
1 day ago
Just FYI, there TOS does say that inputs from API or code use will not be stored. There is an addendum near the bottom.
1 day ago
Just FYI, there TOS does say that inputs from API or code use will not be stored. There is an addendum near the bottom.
Yes, and the terms are much more protective for enterprise clients, so it pays to pay. Similar to a protection racket, they (Z.ai et al) raise a threat and then offer to relieve the same threat.
The real guarantee comes from their having (enterprise) clients who would punish them severely for violating their interests, and then sliding under the same roof (because technical consistency of same service?). The punishment comes in the form of becoming persona non-grata in investment circles, applied to both the company and the principals. So it's safe for little-company if it's using the same service as that used by big-company - a kind of free-riding protection. The difficulty with that is it does open a peephole for security services (and Z.ai expressly says it will comply with any such orders), and security services seem to be used for technological competition nowadays.
In fairness, it's not clear the TOS from other providers are any better, and other bigger providers might be more likely to have established cooperation with security services - if that's a concern.
> Similar to a protection racket, they (Z.ai et al) raise a threat and then offer to relieve the same threat.
Eh? The notion of a protection racket applies when you have virtually no choice. They come on your territory and cause problems if you don't pay up. Nothing like that is happening here: The customer is going on their property and using their service.
If I offered a service for free, and you weren't paying me, I would very happily do all kinds of things with your data. I don't owe you anything, and you can simply just not use my site.
They are not training on API data because they would simply have fewer customers otherwise. There's nothing nefarious in any of this.
In any case, since they're releasing the weights, any 3rd party can offer the same service.