{"id":46370247,"user":"wobfan","time":1766529083,"time_ago":"20 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

Last time I checked the European Union was a political construct and not a phone manufacturer.","comments":[{"id":46370874,"user":"websiteapi","time":1766533626,"time_ago":"18 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

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Still don't get your point.

How can the failures to innovate from privates companies be the responsibility of a political union of different governments?","comments":[{"id":46372190,"user":"morshu9001","time":1766547681,"time_ago":"15 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

EU regulations strangle corporate innovation there","comments":[{"id":46376960,"user":"whynotmaybe","time":1766593932,"time_ago":"2 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

I think you're looking at it from the wrong angle.

Most of the EU corpus of law is based on culturally acceptable actions from their members.\nThe EU regulations don't strangle, the EU culture is just different.

Innovation for the sake of innovation and the pursuit of money isn't deeply entrenched in European culture.

So yes, innovation based on "go fast and don't care if you break stuff" comes mainly from outside of EU.","comments":[],"comments_count":0,"level":3,"url":"item?id=46376960"},{"id":46372757,"user":"deaux","time":1766554193,"time_ago":"13 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

And another one parroting this without talking to EU founders.","comments":[{"id":46374415,"user":"disgruntledphd2","time":1766573305,"time_ago":"7 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

I mean, they're not entirely wrong, but it's actually the lack of a capital markets union that causes the issues here.

So in fact, this is a case where the answer is more EU (specifically, a better set of cross-country capital markets). Depressingly, the obvious place to build this is no longer in the EU.","comments":[{"id":46374447,"user":"deaux","time":1766573818,"time_ago":"7 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

They're wrong in everything but a meaningless "well technically" sense. People spouting "EU regulations strangle business" nonsense are never talking about the lack of capital markets union. Let alone in a thread about "iOS 26.3 brings AirPods-like pairing to third-party devices in EU under DMA".

> So in fact, this is a case where the answer is more EU (specifically, a better set of cross-country capital markets).

Can you give me a set of non-EU countries with better cross-country capital markets, that are as such now instead the place to build this? Especially for a set size bigger than 3? Serious question, as I've never heard of one and am fairly sure it doesn't exist, though I'd love to be proven wrong.","comments":[{"id":46374719,"user":"disgruntledphd2","time":1766576492,"time_ago":"7 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

> Can you give me a set of non-EU countries with better cross-country capital markets, that are as such now instead the place to build this? Especially for a set size bigger than 3? Serious question, as I've never heard of one and am fairly sure it doesn't exist, though I'd love to be proven wrong.

This does not exist, however the EU single market is also pretty unique in terms of how many countries are involved. If you include the EEA and the customs union, it's definitely the largest.

Given that there's an obvious currency union, the capital markets thing is relatively plausible (difficult but not impossible), and I personally think it would be great.

Note that I am biased, as I live in a small EU country and our financial and insurance providers are both expensive and terrible. And obviously the EU tech industry would benefit, which would also help me.

I think the real reason this hasn't happened is hangover from the EZ crisis, as sharing risk for banks across nations was toxic in many countries as a result of the financial and EZ crises. But now seems like a good time to at least start it.

As I said above, the biggest problem here would be where to put it, and the UK's absence from the EU makes the obvious place politically a non-runner (unfortunately).","comments":[],"comments_count":0,"level":6,"url":"item?id=46374719"},{"id":46376155,"user":"morshu9001","time":1766588501,"time_ago":"3 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

Right, I'm not talking about capital markets, just regulations. Overall tech doesn't thrive in the EU. Their attitude probably predates EU founding too. And I'm not just saying that because of this relatively small AirPods situation (where I actually agree with EU).","comments":[],"comments_count":0,"level":6,"url":"item?id=46376155"}],"comments_count":2,"level":5,"url":"item?id=46374447"}],"comments_count":3,"level":4,"url":"item?id=46374415"}],"comments_count":4,"level":3,"url":"item?id=46372757"}],"comments_count":6,"level":2,"url":"item?id=46372190"}],"comments_count":7,"level":1,"url":"item?id=46371144"}],"comments_count":8,"level":0,"url":"item?id=46370874"}],"comments_count":9,"url":"item?id=46370247"}

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