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Comment by CrossVR

6 hours ago

You're still missing the point. Imagine an alternate reality where the EU denied any of the US findings and instead backed up VW in their assertions they've done no wrong. They then levied sanctions against multiple senators that advocated in favor of the Clean Air act and called for the US to disband.

Does that sound reasonable?

> That's the UK, France and Germany lobbying to keep the emissions tests inadequate so VW can continue.

I'm sure there are many states within the U.S. that are currently lobbying for even less regulation of Big Tech.

The US found VW breaking US and EU laws. The EU has found [tech cos] supposedly breaking EU laws only and keep inventing nonsense to try and force their ideals on the rest of the world. It's boring, hence the (minor) sanctions on these individuals to get them to stop wasting everyone's time.

If the EU want to block parts of the Internet off then go for it. Just don't pretend it's everyone else's fault that it's embracing mass censorship and that this is in any way compatible with the values of the enlightenment.

  • So you're saying that if the EU had less strict laws then such a reaction would've been appropriate? Then it would've been totally reasonable for the EU to sanction US senators to stop wasting everyone's time with their air quality standards?

    • > So you're saying . . .

      I'm using words to say what I mean, not what you are hallucinating, so I will clearly state for the final time:

      VW was caught, by US authorities, violating EU laws, and it transpired that EU officials had been lobbying to enable VW and other EU champions to continue to do so.

      The equivalent would be the EU catching US companies violating freedom of speech in the US, and clearly pointing this out. This is not what the EU have been doing.

      My root reply in this thread was flagged, despite being stunningly milquetoast, in a transparent attempt to hide any inconvenient dissenting view, which is precisely what the EU are trying to do.

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  • "Their ideals" being not deceiving consumers and giving researchers access to data, as required in our market.

    Why is whatever law VW broke "real", while these are "nonsense"?