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Comment by fidotron

9 hours ago

The US found VW breaking US and EU laws. The EU has found [tech cos] supposedly breaking EU laws only and keep inventing nonsense to try and force their ideals on the rest of the world. It's boring, hence the (minor) sanctions on these individuals to get them to stop wasting everyone's time.

If the EU want to block parts of the Internet off then go for it. Just don't pretend it's everyone else's fault that it's embracing mass censorship and that this is in any way compatible with the values of the enlightenment.

So you're saying that if the EU had less strict laws then such a reaction would've been appropriate? Then it would've been totally reasonable for the EU to sanction US senators to stop wasting everyone's time with their air quality standards?

  • > So you're saying . . .

    I'm using words to say what I mean, not what you are hallucinating, so I will clearly state for the final time:

    VW was caught, by US authorities, violating EU laws, and it transpired that EU officials had been lobbying to enable VW and other EU champions to continue to do so.

    The equivalent would be the EU catching US companies violating freedom of speech in the US, and clearly pointing this out. This is not what the EU have been doing.

    My root reply in this thread was flagged, despite being stunningly milquetoast, in a transparent attempt to hide any inconvenient dissenting view, which is precisely what the EU are trying to do.

    • > VW was caught, by US authorities, violating EU laws, and it transpired that EU officials had been lobbying to enable VW and other EU champions to continue to do so.

      X was caught, by EU authorities, violating EU anti-trust laws, and US officials are lobbying to enable X and other Big Tech companies to continue to do so.

      > My root reply in this thread was flagged, despite being stunningly milquetoast, in a transparent attempt to hide any inconvenient dissenting view, which is precisely what the EU are trying to do.

      To the contrary, the DSA would've likely protected your comment. It requires that if content was flagged or removed a clear reason has to be stated for its removal with the ability to appeal it. Neither of which is offered by Hacker News because the DSA does not apply to it and so your comment was removed without a stated reason nor the ability to appeal it.

      Big Tech companies don't want to protect free speech, they just want to maintain their unchecked moderation power on their platforms.

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"Their ideals" being not deceiving consumers and giving researchers access to data, as required in our market.

Why is whatever law VW broke "real", while these are "nonsense"?