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Comment by wisty

8 hours ago

Can you rephrase what I said without "literally using NATO for a grouping that does not include the US"?

I didn't even mention the US lol, I think you're paranoid but please, correct me ...

I mean, I didn't phrase it as Trump being a part of NATO, but he's not actually a country.

Oops I guess if this is as much sense as you can make then there wasn't much point in my trying to parse your comment in the first place.

  • I didn't group NATO and the US separately. You thought I did, but I didn't and you just hadn't read properly.

    I waffled a bit in my reply to not rub it in too hard.

    And do you want to contribute with something other than nitpick or insult?

    Do YOU think that an informed and intelligent person can conclude that Trump is secretly a Russian agent, given he was the driving force behind a massive hike in NATO spending (which Putin really hates)?

    I'm not calling Trump competent, or consistent, or benevolent. You can say he has a weird crushed on Putin and is easily manipulated and corrupt.

    You can even suggest a lot of the MAGA people who surround Trump are actually working for Russia, since Russia tries to influence a lot of groups and Trump's cronies (and the influencers Trump listens to) are often compromised.

    But do you think Trump is actually consistently taking orders from Putin because of some kind of leverage Putin has? Because people say this constantly and it's (in my opinion) almost as embarrassing as Republicans and the Pizza conspiracy. Trump has done some things that are increadibly damaging to Russia, and blackmail doesn't work on a pathological liar with no sense of shame.

    I'm sure you're smart enough to agree with pretty much all of this. But you disingenuously attack me because I'm attacking people who are on your side, even if you would privately admit they are dumb.