Comment by exasperaited
2 hours ago
> Instead of curing the disease you're treating the symptoms.
Banning criminals and neonazis who act against our nation's interests is a simple matter of sovereignty and I hope we continue to do it despite your and JD Vance's opinions; it's a right the nation reserves.
> No amount of bad speech can make people extremist on its own.
This is pie-in-the-sky fantasy. It's just not true at all.
The tiniest, most meaningless, most temporary grievance can be exploited by demagogues and everyone knows it. Including the American president.
> Banning criminals and neonazis who act against our nation's interests is a simple matter of sovereignty and I hope we continue to do it despite your and JD Vance's opinions; it's a right the nation reserves.
The UK seems to mainly ban thought criminals, while letting actual criminals run rampant. This, of course, is why much of the world views the UK as teetering on the edge of being a failed state.
> This is pie-in-the-sky fantasy. It's just not true at all.
It's absolutely true. How many hours of Nazi propaganda would it take to turn you into a Nazi? I don't know about you, but the answer for me is "no amount of Nazi propaganda would ever turn me into a Nazi." People are becoming extremists in the UK because of the worsening cultural and economic situation. You were once the richest nation in the world. Now, the GDP per capita PPP of the UK is comparable to Mississippi with a major class divide. The UK government has miserably failed its people for decades and continues to get worse in addressing the needs of its people. The best anyone can offer is scaremongering about neonazis which are not a threat anywhere in the western world.
> The tiniest, most meaningless, most temporary grievance can be exploited by demagogues and everyone knows it. Including the American president
This is the same old argument that tyrants and dictators have made for thousands of years. You can't have freedom or democracy because then demagogues will fool the people. Nevertheless, democracy is still a better system than the alternatives. The solution is to do a good job governing your people so mass dissatisfaction doesn't lead them to lend their ear to demagogues. If you would prefer to live in an authoritarian state where demagogues aren't a problem, there are plenty of them - try Russia if you want to stay in Europe.