Comment by carolosf
25 days ago
I used to use Mattermost. Highly recommend looking at Zulip as an alternative. (It’s my favourite slack alternative and even better than Slack because it’s the best at managing distractions IMO. It also has an interesting history was acquired by Dropbox and then back from Dropbox I believe)
I love Zulip too, use it daily, wrote some nice integrations for it. Never got why people preferred Mattermost over it
Zulip is a kind of annoying name, and every time I encounter it it's in the context of some open source platform hiding their community discussion forum behind a login. I'm left with a not very great impression.
FYI, for a while now you can mark any Zulip channel as public, which means the chat history for that channel does not require a login to view. See https://zulip.com/help/public-access-option for more details.
Hope Zulip's discoverability improves.
In what sense?
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I don't like the way they push you to give a subject to every discussion. In a way it's more like a newsgroup replacement than Slack, whereas Mattermost is a straight-up Slack clone.
How does Zulip compare to Matrix/Element?
Zulip too has similar restrictions even on their self hosted plans. SAML/LDAP is behind paywall too.
Just looked to their self hosted plans:
IOW, for self-hosted plans, you pay for support, not the software. a-la early RedHat model.
Ref: https://zulip.com/plans/#self-hosted-sponsorships
This is false, SAML and LDAP are available. Zulip self hosted has all features with no restrictions, except for mobile notifications which require a subscription for $3.50/u/m (unless you are less than 10 users or are not a non-profit of any kind)
It’s a bit odd though that Zulip charge $ for mobile notifications but still don’t have basic end-to-end encryption for those push notifications .
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> unless you are less than 10 users or are not a non-profit of any kind
They only give free accounts to non-profits with zero paid staff.
I stand corrected. SAML & LDAP is free in zulip.
What restrictions have you hit ?
Seeing their pricing page, mobile notifications for upto 10 users is too less.
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