Comment by Santosh83
2 months ago
He's mainly talking about environmental & social consequences now and in the future. He personally is beyond reach of such consequences given his seniority and age, so this speculative tangent is detracting from his main point, to put it charitably.
>He's mainly talking about environmental & social consequences
That's such a weak argument. Then why not stop driving, stop watching TV, stop using the internet? Hell... let's go back and stop using the steam engine for that matter.
The issue with this line of argumentation is that unlike gen AI, all of the things you listed produce actual value.
Maybe you're forgetting something but genAI does produce value. Subjective value, yes. But still value to others who can make use of them.
End of the day your current prosperity is made by advances in energy and technology. It would be disingenuous to deny that and to deny the freedom of others to progress in their field of study.
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> Then why not stop driving
You mean, we should all drive, oh I don't know, Electric powered cars?
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> You criticize society and yet you participate in it. How curious.
I didn't criticize society though?
Ah... the old "all or nothing" fallacy, which in this case quickly leads to "save the planet, kill yourself". We need more nuance.
What is the nuance? Let us know.
What are his hobbies? Let’s pit them against training LLMs in value and pollution rate.
No you’re just deflecting his points with an ad hominem argument. Stop pretending to assume what he ‘truly feels’.
I don't even know who Rob Pike is to be honest. I'm not attacking him.
I'm not pretending to know how he feels. I'm just reading between the lines and speculating.
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You mean you can't critize certain parts of society unless you live like a hermite?
> Obviously, it's just what I'm seeing.
Have you considered that this may just be a rationalization on your part?