A bunch of this stuff is already there in Windows and in Visual Studio. It has been for decades.
But it’s legacy tech. Nobody actually cares about IPC to this degree. I suspect because nobody’s mental model works to this level of abstraction and who the hell is going to waste time doing all the plumbing.
Kudos for suffering on JVM I guess. Some people have a higher pain threshold.
Ideal IDE? As long as I have a reflow oven I’m not complaining.
>While the JVM solves lots of hard problems, it has one major weakness, the UI libraries provided by the JVM (Swing and JavaFX) are clunky and dated.
I also feel this; it's what puts me off writing GUI apps in Clojure. I have hope that natively compiled Clojure implementations like Jank that could interact with C or C++ libraries could help with this.
i made a GUI with cljfx which uses JavaFX and I didnt really hit any issues (save for i have one bug on startup that ive had trouble ironing out). The app is snappy and feels as native as anything else
Ended with a very modular functional GUI program
the only thing i wasnt super happy about is that i couldnt package it as a simple .bin/.exe bc the jpackage system forces you into making an installer/application (its been a few years since, so its possible theres a graal native solution now)
i highly recommend cljfx. Its the opposite of clunky
Awesome work! I like the idea of being able to quickly make little tools in your IDE.
Coincidentally, lately I have been thinking of making an IDE using something like Theia or CodeMirror but am holding off because of time for my other projects.
This is what I keep coming back to when I am building a little tui manager for my coding assistants + terminal + git worktree manager.
I keep telling myself that if everyone just used tmux or a good emulator they could manage the tabs and layouts, but then I tell myself I just want this to be a tiling window manager as an distraction free OS for development, give me nothing but a terminal and an assistant.
Thanks for the write up OP, I've been going back and forth on whether or not I want to build something just for myself or spend time doing it for potentially other use cases. I keep coming back to that I need to dog food the shit out of this before I show it to anyone.
A bunch of this stuff is already there in Windows and in Visual Studio. It has been for decades.
But it’s legacy tech. Nobody actually cares about IPC to this degree. I suspect because nobody’s mental model works to this level of abstraction and who the hell is going to waste time doing all the plumbing.
Kudos for suffering on JVM I guess. Some people have a higher pain threshold.
Ideal IDE? As long as I have a reflow oven I’m not complaining.
This sounds very close to my dream IDE, I've always wanted to build a smalltalk + emacs like editor/ide in Clojure but never got around to it.
I wanted to try Easel but there were no instructions how. This is how I got it running:
Amazing project!
>While the JVM solves lots of hard problems, it has one major weakness, the UI libraries provided by the JVM (Swing and JavaFX) are clunky and dated.
I also feel this; it's what puts me off writing GUI apps in Clojure. I have hope that natively compiled Clojure implementations like Jank that could interact with C or C++ libraries could help with this.
what specifically did you have issues with?
i made a GUI with cljfx which uses JavaFX and I didnt really hit any issues (save for i have one bug on startup that ive had trouble ironing out). The app is snappy and feels as native as anything else
Ended with a very modular functional GUI program
the only thing i wasnt super happy about is that i couldnt package it as a simple .bin/.exe bc the jpackage system forces you into making an installer/application (its been a few years since, so its possible theres a graal native solution now)
i highly recommend cljfx. Its the opposite of clunky
Same. I wish Webview would work with GraalVM native compilation.
Awesome work! I like the idea of being able to quickly make little tools in your IDE.
Coincidentally, lately I have been thinking of making an IDE using something like Theia or CodeMirror but am holding off because of time for my other projects.
This is really cool, but begs the question: is the ideal IDE actually just a window manager with strong component coupling?
Injecteur Dépendance Environnement
Where tools are dependencies and the system composes them together to create a sum much greater than the parts.
This is what I keep coming back to when I am building a little tui manager for my coding assistants + terminal + git worktree manager.
I keep telling myself that if everyone just used tmux or a good emulator they could manage the tabs and layouts, but then I tell myself I just want this to be a tiling window manager as an distraction free OS for development, give me nothing but a terminal and an assistant.
Thanks for the write up OP, I've been going back and forth on whether or not I want to build something just for myself or spend time doing it for potentially other use cases. I keep coming back to that I need to dog food the shit out of this before I show it to anyone.
Excellent work. Now please partner with a software-focused UI/UX designer. To make a great product it takes a village.
Hey, this is absolutely amazing