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Comment by netdur

21 hours ago

i don't understand americans, two years ago i wanted a tesla, now i want a byd, you've let down the only american company competing against the chinese, all because of trump and politics

Elon's personality has been known before he ever came out in support of Trump. Think back to when he called someone trying to rescue kids a "pedo" because they ignored his idea of building a submarine. Moreover, his inability to deliver on promises has been a well-known fact for years.

  • Since when is someone trying to build a difficult thing on a tight timeline referred to as a "promise"?

    He sets extremely ambitious goals and usually/often misses them, but the end result is that despite missing the ambitious goal, something amazing is delivered still much faster than anyone else could do it.

  • He regularly delivers on promises. What he consistently fails to deliver on is timelines.

    • I guess that's true if you stretch timelines to infinity. I'm still waiting on:

      - L5 autonomous driving

      - $35k Teslas

      - Hyperloop

      - Lunar trips to the moon on spacex

      - Humans on Mars

      But I guess if we just consider those delayed, then all good.

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I think you're underselling what Trump and Musk has done to the stability of Democracy in the US. Aside from all that, there are other American car manufacturers with great EVs: Mustang Mach-E, Chevy Equinox/Bolt/Blazer, etc. Not saying that BYD isn't better, but comparing to Tesla, there is plenty of US competition.

  • > Aside from all that, there are other American car manufacturers with great EVs: Mustang Mach-E, Chevy Equinox/Bolt/Blazer, etc.

    Teslas aren’t perfect, and they are definitely starting to get a bit dated, but the list you made has precisely zero “great EVs” imho.

    • I absolutely prefer my Ioniq 5 over a Tesla, not merely 'tolerate it'.

      Tesla has everyone else beat on charging infrastructure, that is true, but I don't need that except for about 0.5% of the miles I drive (and even there, Tesla's competitors exist and are fine on the routes I'd take).

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    • They are as good as any Tesla, however, and in some areas better. Source: I own a Tesla Model 3 (my second) and I have owned a Bolt in the past, and currently own a Lightning. Aside from towing range, I prefer the Lightning the majority of the time. Tesla does some things better, while Ford excels in other ways. Both definitely have glaring faults.

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Americans? Elon Musk is one person. He might be the richest person in the world but he doesn't represent us.

We voted with our wallets. Between communism and Nazis, communism was the lesser evil. This is Musk's WW3.

  • Communism has killed hundreds of millions of innocent people. It's not cute or funny.

    • Every decade, global capitalism decides that 100 million people don't need to eat and they get to starve to death. In the same time period, slightly less than that die from lack of medical care the market decides they don't need.

      And that's just contemporary capitalism. Hundreds of millions starved in famines, and starving people got to watch as the food they themselves harvested was shipped to markets that would pay more for it. Millions were enslaved, and cultures, races and communities were wiped off the faces of continents in the name of profit.

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