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Comment by dzhiurgis

1 day ago

FSD is going to wipe everything off.

I’ve tried v13 few weeks ago, knowing it works so well. Still got shocked how good it is.

They’ll have to drop the price of it tho, but even then 10M cars * $100 per month is $12b of revenue per year.

How is that a Tesla thing though?

I'm fairly certain every auto manufacturer and many non-auto manufacturers are working on it. I doubt they'll be able to patent anything truly important to the process, since others beat them to the market with most of it. Or am I missing something essential?

  • Remember how everyone kept saying tesla is doomed because any minute now the old OEMs were going to storm in and kill their EV business? In actuality, those OEMs are getting killed by Tesla and Chinese startups. You are making the same argument for autonomy. Old OEMS cannot compete in this space at all. Waymo cannot compete on price with Tesla.

    • > Waymo cannot compete on price with Tesla

      It's a race between how fast Waymo's COGS can decline and how fast Tesla's FSD can achieve actual self-driving. At this moment, given all the evidence available, my inclination is that Waymo is in a better spot.

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    • Sure, they're a bit ahead but Mercedes has level 3 self driving and they didnt celebrate killing a bunch of people (and not lowering the deficit) by prancing around with a chainsaw.[0]

      I feel like people will be willing to wait until next year for the Alphabet or Mercedes version, but maybe I'm overestimating the average person's attention span or underestimating how far behind the competition is.

      [0] https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-new-yorker-documentary...

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  • > How is that a Tesla thing though?

    It's not. Waymo could license a version of its stack using the Android model (specifies a minimum sensor suite OEMs have to qualify models on).