Colors and color names are culture dependent, and you are not guaranteed that people in different cultures agree on what color something is.
The most famous of these discrepancies is Japan and green vs blue, or why does Jenkins by default use red, yellow and blue instead of red, yellow and green.
So I would urge using something other than colors as an example of shared human experience.
You're talking about culture and names, I am not. We all live in an objective reality where a red spectrum of light exists and we can differentiate among other colors.
This is the contention with the person I am replying to, they're acting as if objective reality doesn't exist. Humans can think, LLMs cannot.
If you can't admit to this there's nothing else worth discussing, but please don't mind my hands covering my wallet as I slowly back out of the room.
You should steel-man the argument. GP is talking about qualia, obviously for the sake of the argument you assume the comparison is between two people with similar eyes.
thank you for providing evidence that some do not.
That's weird. You aren't actually being sarcastic but literally believe the opposite of your post!
Save it for your blunt rotation.
Probably the same way that I can be assured your interpretation of red is mine.
Colors and color names are culture dependent, and you are not guaranteed that people in different cultures agree on what color something is.
The most famous of these discrepancies is Japan and green vs blue, or why does Jenkins by default use red, yellow and blue instead of red, yellow and green.
So I would urge using something other than colors as an example of shared human experience.
You're talking about culture and names, I am not. We all live in an objective reality where a red spectrum of light exists and we can differentiate among other colors.
This is the contention with the person I am replying to, they're acting as if objective reality doesn't exist. Humans can think, LLMs cannot.
If you can't admit to this there's nothing else worth discussing, but please don't mind my hands covering my wallet as I slowly back out of the room.
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Some people are colorblind. Some people have more or less cones and rods. Our interpretation of colors is certainly not the same
You should steel-man the argument. GP is talking about qualia, obviously for the sake of the argument you assume the comparison is between two people with similar eyes.
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The wild success of traffic lights disagrees with your statement.
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not again
Denial of an objective reality is a symptom shared by various strands of bad thinking our current era.
LLMs do not think. That's reality.
"think" is not sufficiently defined to assign an objective truth value to that statement.
What could an AI do that would convince you that it is able to think?
AI or an LLM? LLMs are matrix multiplication word guessing machines, so nothing. AI doesn't exist yet.
Win a (properly conducted) Turing test
Nobody knows what thinking is. A real human brain can be simulated with matrix multiplications.