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Comment by illiac786

4 hours ago

I agree with everything, just want to add a downside of proton which is often forgotten: there is no search. You cannot search your emails’ body (headers work, but keywords like “from:” still do not work for search), you cannot search the content of your files, etc.

It’s the price of end-to-end encryption.

The only workaround is synchronising everything locally and searching locally.

But you still can use Thunderbird for that. I recommend it no matter what mail provider is used. Web interfaces are so heavy nowadays, compared to that, Thunderbird feels so fast.

  • yes, so I can search my emails solely on my laptop if I install proton bridge and synchronize 50GB of emails. And in case you have ever tried to search 50GB of data with thunderbird, it’s slow.

    I tried synchronising the data directly in the browser, without any email client and the search is mediocre and slow.

    This is not a great experience for search.

    But again, it’s not a critique of Proton, it’s just how it is with E2EE. At least it demonstrate they are really doing E2EE.

    I still hope some time in the future homomorphic encryption will help, but I think we are at least a decade away from that.

  • Until some time ago they prevented users from using Thunderbird for Protonmail though. Well, good that now it is possible!

    • You've been able to use it since 2017 on Windows and 2020 on Linux, so only about 8 and 5 years respectively.

This is a problem of encrypted storage in general (and hopefully homomorphic encryption will solve that), but I knew this and for me that is a feature, not a bug. I use 2-step password auth (NOT 2FA) explicitly so no one can read my emails without my consent - not the provider, nor the government.

  • Can you elaborate on how the second password improves the privacy/security posture? I might switch to it.