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Comment by embedding-shape

11 hours ago

More importantly, the bilateral relationship between the US and Europe represents 30% of global trade, and 40% of the global GDP. Both economies complement each other naturally (at least right now), and neither partners don't want it to end, so even with the relationship becoming more fragile as the US tries to close itself off from the world, I think both will still try to remain collaborative with each other, regardless of this posturing that is going on.

It will take a lot to shift that trade dynamic, but the current US administration seems quite energetic about rapidly tearing down Chesterton's Fences that it doesn't understand nor want to spend the time to understand, so I'd not bet on this remaining so even for the next 3 years.

And yes, I do understand how utterly bonkers it is to suggest something this big changing over just 3 years.

  • That trade dynamic isn’t going to shift unless the EU becomes a lot more insular.

    The War in Ukraine is dampening trade with Russia. The EU is struggling in their trade relations with the PRC even more than with America right now, and fears them more than they fear us. A trade deal (“Mercosur”) with South America is in the process of potentially blowing up, and if it’s not passed in its current state, Brazil is looking to walk for the remainder of their President’s term in office.

    So the EU’s options are limited.

    • The EU certainly has limited options, I agree about that.

      The problem I see is the risks are not under the EU's control. We may face becoming much more insular regardless of what any of us ourselves actually want.

      Trump is behaving in a manner not consistent with EU nations retaining indepdendence and sovreignty. And also betting the future of USA on economic development plans (and military plans) that do not seem realistic.

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  • I don't believe this is possible, even at Trump speed. It's much easier to wreck NATO than to reshape the world economy to that extent.

"neither partners don't"

I think your main point is valid, but it would be more compelling if you'd taken a few seconds to read it before submitting, to catch this double-negative.