Comment by Imustaskforhelp
1 day ago
The bytehosting deal is good too! Oh btw lowendbox has a forum called lowendtalk where hosting providers etc. talk as well and show deals etc. and I got part of the community (you need to register and be verified manually but it wasn't hard)
Lowendbox is amazing. Glad we are talking about it as I recently joined it and the community's really supportive and honestly feels more so in the sharing spirit and I even talked about why people use lowendhosts etc. and got some pretty good answers imo
Although do be beware to stay away as there are some hosters which end up going completely down. So go with someone reputable as well and there is whole lore beneath in this forum :)
Racknerd,dedirock are usually recommended, I recommend https://serverdeals.cc/ etc. I have a list which I can recommend after being in the community for some time and here's some websites which I recommend for suggestions
Honestly I still recommend hetzner tho because these are some really really good deals but hetzner just has this reputation of more stability and I jsut have more faith in hetzner and its a "good enough" option imo and there are even some lowendhosts who kind of do share the fact that hetzner is very price competitive.
I personally had gotten a 2$/month 1TB vps hosting (yeah didn't really end up using it much aside from the shock factor/running yabs on it)
and also I got a 3 month 8bucks deal with netcup using their vouchers and everything to get 8 gigs of ram 4vcpus etc and honestly this was the best deal I ever saw but I will have to pay 5 bucks I guess after the 3 months end.
Most of it is remaining idle tho :< Are there any services I can run for the benefit of humanity (like running some self hosted services that can help anybody out there or smth?)
Let me know if you have any questions! I might be able to help you as I was active on lowendtalk till quite recently
I'm on Hetzner as well; migrated from DigitalOcean. They are stable, but they got a bit of bad reputation, since they were hacked at least 2 times already [0] [1]. Stable != Secure.
0 - https://www.heise.de/news/Hetzner-gehackt-Kundendaten-kopier...
1 - https://www.zdnet.com/article/hackers-breach-web-hosting-pro...
edit: links
How did these came to existence? Most of these offerings look basically identical. Is it ran by the same guy behind, or is it like a get rich quick network business stuff?
Some of these are resellers. Big provider sells them a package of 10-1000 VPSs and they set up websites to sell them to you. But you can also find lots of direct deals as well. BuyVM famously has their $15/year deal on a 1GB VPS. You can also often find dedicated servers for like $25/month. I recently bought a $75 lifetime deal on some email hosting for up to 25 domains and I think 250GB storage. Great for some secondary domains and such that I use. There are some real gems out there and you should see their Black Friday threads. Kind of a wild place.
There are lots of even cheaper deals than buyvm usually with racknerd and dedirock. Black friday deals are absolutely amazing but always go with someone a bit more reputed and Buyvm's an amazing choice too although they would be considered "pricey" in comparison to someone (just a few $'s) (I have joined their discord server)
I think racknerd recently did a 6.85$ or similar deal but the point of these deals become is that they become insanely overprovisioned and it becomes a showpiece of sorts "look what deal I got ;P" kinda not sure.
I think another fascinating deal about lowendtalk is that man those people have this faith in small hosting providers and giving chances to them etc. hoping that they become big as well. There are very few places like lowendtalk on the internet. I find a lot of similarities with the hackernews culture although more focused on deals/hosting although its definitely more casual than hackernews.
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LowEndBox is as old as HN and has been doing VPS deals before the cloud took over. There are also deals offering for VPN services as well.
There's some commercial software to sell/resell VPS, etc that some of these outfits use.
And it's pretty much a commodity business, so things are going to tend to look similar. If you're buying $5/month VPS, you don't want to pay for a lot of fluff. A lot of these are small time local hosters in a single location, but that's usually all you need for a small site.
Its usually WHMCS + virtfusion
There are alternatives but usually all just go use these for some reason
This is also why a lot of these websites might look similar as well.
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To be honest there is one instance that i know of where what ends up happening is that colocrossing a major vps provider does end up doing something like this (they used to be hosters/owners???? of lowendtalk/lowendbox)
Now another aspect is that the hosting economy is very mutual, they all start out somewhere and they are usually friendly towards each other. Most Hosting providers start out by either using reseller service directly or by colocating or by reselling dedicated servers which can be themselves of other providers
I don't know but the community is both cut throat and chill at the same time. It's strange to point this phenomenon but I think my point of their friendliness is something which depends and I don't know much about it but I once asked people on lowendtalk if I wanted to create a cloud provider myself and I got some responses and they were friendly so I am basing it off of that
Another aspect is that the market has already raced to the bottom super hard. Hetzner/OVH are really cheap, so to get even cheaper, you kinda have to be in the same pricing range I guess
Fun or not so fun fact but do you know that there have been cases of lowendbox providers to actually go shut down because they take these completely no profitable sense deal and actually lose money sometimes. VeloxMedia is a recent example of that and there is still controversy surrounding it.
There is also the fact that the scam industry in this department works as such:
Rent a really big server with lots of cores for a few months
Sell them unreasonably in LET for the year pricing or more
Then sell the company/be unable to provide/etc.
these I think are called as deadpools in the community.
Also regarding your comment behind same guy, there are sometimes family relations between people
as an example, racknerd I think is owned by the stepson of the owner of colocrossing and they I think using colocrossing themselves.
These have their own little drama stories and I think this is just the tip of iceberg as I just joined recently and probably digging through old archives.