Comment by 112233

I'm a bit skeptical either example is representative of "most" existing software. If anything, the mere existence of __builtin_malloc and its default use should hint that most existing software doesn't care about malloc/free actually being called. That being said...

> As an example, user kentonv wrote: "I patched the memory allocator used by the Cloudflare Workers runtime to overwrite all memory with a static byte pattern on free". And compiler would, like, "nah, let's leave all that data on stack".

Strictly speaking, I don't think eliding malloc/free would "break" those programs because that behavior is there for security if/when something else goes wrong, not as part of the software's regular intended functionality (or at least I sure hope nothing relies on that behavior for proper functioning!).

> Or somebody would try to plug in mimalloc/jemalloc [] and wonder what's going on.

Why would mimalloc/jemalloc/some other general-purpose allocator care that it doesn't have to execute a matching malloc/free pair any more than the default allocator?

I'm not sure debug allocators would care either? If you're trying to debug mismatched malloc/free pairs then the ones the compiler elides are the ones you don't care about anyways since those are the ones that can be statically proven to be "self-contained" and/or correct. If you're gathering statistics then you probably care more about the malloc/free calls that do occur (i.e., the ones that can't be elided), not those that don't.

In any case, if you want to use a malloc/free implementation that promises more than the C standard does (e.g., special byte pattern on free, statistics/debug info tracking, etc.) there's always -fno-builtin-malloc (or memset_explicit if you're lucky enough to be using C23). Of course, the tradeoff is that you give up some potential performance.

>As an example, user kentonv wrote: "I patched the memory allocator used by the Cloudflare Workers runtime to overwrite all memory with a static byte pattern on free". And compiler would, like, "nah, let's leave all that data on stack".

Such a program would continue to function as normal; the dirty data would just be left on the stack. If the developer wants to clear that data too, they'd just have to modify the compiler to overwrite the stack just before (or just after) moving the stack pointer.

>Or somebody would try to plug in mimalloc/jemalloc or a debug allocator and wonder what's going on.

Again, that wouldn't be broken. They would see that no dynamic allocations were performed during that particular section. Which would be correct.