Comment by bob1029
2 hours ago
> It brings the power of edge computing to your own infrastructure.
I like the idea of self-hosting, but it seems fairly strongly opposed to the concept of edge computing. The edge is only made possible by big ass vendors like Cloudflare. Your own infrastructure is very unlikely to have 300+ points of presence on the global web. You can replicate this with a heterogeneous fleet of smaller and more "ethical" vendors, but also with a lot more effort and downside risk.
Is some sort of decentralised network of hosts somehow working together to challenge the Cloudflare hegemony even plausible? Would it be too difficult to coordinate in a safe and reliable way?
But do you need 300 pops to benefit from the edge model? Or would 10 pops in your primary territory be enough.
Honestly, for my own stuff I only need one PoP to be close to my users. And I've avoided using Cloudflare because they're too far away.
More seriously, I think there's a distinction between "edge-style" and actual edge that's important here. Most of the services I've been involved in wouldn't benefit from any kind of edge placement: that's not the lowest hanging fruit for performance improvements. But that doesn't mean that the "workers" model wouldn't fit, and indeed I suspect that using a workers model would help folk architect their stuff in a form that is not only more performant, but also more amenable to edge placement.
For most applications 1 location is probably good enough.I assume HN is single location and I am a lomg way from CA but have no speed issues.
Cavaet for high scale sites and game servers. Maybe for image heavy sites too (but self hosting then adding a CDN seems like a low lock in and low cost option)
> For most applications 1 location is probably good enough.
If your usecase doesn't require redundancy or high-availability, why would you be using something like Cloudflare to start with?
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I agree, latency is very important and 300 pops is great, but seems more for marketing and would see diminishing returns for the majority of applications.
many apps are fine on a single server
> But do you need 300 pops to benefit from the edge model? Or would 10 pops in your primary territory be enough.
I don't think that the number of PoPs is the key factor. The key factor is being able to route requests based on a edge-friendly criteria (latency, geographical proximity, etc) and automatically deploy changes in a way that the system ensures consistency.
This sort of projects do not and cannot address those concerns.
Targeting the SDK and interface is a good hackathon exercise, but unless you want to put together a toy runtime to do some local testing, this sort of project completely misses the whole reason why this sort of technology is used.