For me, Firefox really lacks in handling of very large amounts of tabs and a lot of features that I specifically use Vivaldi for. Does that mean Vivaldi is the best? Yes and No, it depends on what you care about.
Is Firefox still a good browser? As far as I know, yes. But I don't use it much at all because it doesn't give _me_ what I want and need.
And yes, I do actually need a large amount of tabs open at the same time very regularly due to the depth of references I work against in my line of work. That's on top of saving lots of bookmarks and syncing them via nextCloud.
You like Firefox? Great, keep at it.
You want to see features that aren't necessarily elsewhere? Consider trying Vivaldi and seeing if it's great for you or not.
Let's not act like browser selection is binary, because it isn't, and it really hasn't been since netscape navigator was new. And even then it's up for debate.
> Chromium is superior in every way. Rendering, features, speed, memory management
Being faster, prettier and using less memory[1] is pointless if the browser won't let me block all ads.
I mean, it's like comparing a turd sandwich made with expensive exotic bread, and a cheese sandwich made with cheap grocery store break.
Sure, the one has great exotic bread, but I don't want the turd it comes with.
So, yeah, it actually doesn't matter how much prettier, faster or smaller web pages are with Chrome, at least FF lets me (currently) block almost anything.
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[1] Chrome beats out FF in exactly one of those, and it's not the memory or speed. Turns out ads take up a lot of RAM, and slow down pages considerably.
Chromium based browsers have non-google sync. Vivaldi implements their own encrypted sync service and I believe Brave does as well.
But I am talking about browser feature support, not stuff that can supplemented with an extension like a password manager.
Firefox has poor support for modern web features including video processing and encoding which makes it very bad at web conferencing/video calls or in-page streaming.
Firefox's developer tools and console is also much worse and missing important features.
Other features Firefox is missing or has poor support for compared to Chromium are WebGPU, WebTransport, Periodic Background Sync, and parts of WebRTC. Plus various APIs for web serial, badging, and Web Share are missing partial or full support.
Firefox still doesn't have functional HDR for images and videos including AV1.
https://mpv.io/
Unofficial third-party builds from unknown github accounts; I think that you are really brave if you installed it.
And the first party ones available there are for testing, with missing features :/
We do not have this kind of problems with VLC.
Did you miss the github builds or just discounting them?
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> So... the better option?
Depends on what you care about.
For me, Firefox really lacks in handling of very large amounts of tabs and a lot of features that I specifically use Vivaldi for. Does that mean Vivaldi is the best? Yes and No, it depends on what you care about.
Is Firefox still a good browser? As far as I know, yes. But I don't use it much at all because it doesn't give _me_ what I want and need.
And yes, I do actually need a large amount of tabs open at the same time very regularly due to the depth of references I work against in my line of work. That's on top of saving lots of bookmarks and syncing them via nextCloud.
You like Firefox? Great, keep at it.
You want to see features that aren't necessarily elsewhere? Consider trying Vivaldi and seeing if it's great for you or not.
Let's not act like browser selection is binary, because it isn't, and it really hasn't been since netscape navigator was new. And even then it's up for debate.
This kind of insulting quip, refusing to engage with the body of the post, is really inappropriate. Can you please not behave like an arse?
IDK where you have been for the last decade, but Firefox has not been the better option since Chromium was made
Disliking Google Chrome proper is one thing, but Chromium is superior in every way. Rendering, features, speed, memory management
Chromium has more than a few flaws that I'm sure you can discover if you choose to. Here's an incident that I cannot forgive:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=786909
Show me a piece of software without flaws and I'll show you either a liar, or perhaps the program "ping".
> Chromium is superior in every way. Rendering, features, speed, memory management
Being faster, prettier and using less memory[1] is pointless if the browser won't let me block all ads.
I mean, it's like comparing a turd sandwich made with expensive exotic bread, and a cheese sandwich made with cheap grocery store break.
Sure, the one has great exotic bread, but I don't want the turd it comes with.
So, yeah, it actually doesn't matter how much prettier, faster or smaller web pages are with Chrome, at least FF lets me (currently) block almost anything.
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[1] Chrome beats out FF in exactly one of those, and it's not the memory or speed. Turns out ads take up a lot of RAM, and slow down pages considerably.
The person is asking for the better option.
I coincide with the person, by the moment Firefox is the better option, the comparative form is confusing.
-1 tab containers
Please elaborate on ”features”.
Does chromium have non-google sync?
Chromium based browsers have non-google sync. Vivaldi implements their own encrypted sync service and I believe Brave does as well.
But I am talking about browser feature support, not stuff that can supplemented with an extension like a password manager.
Firefox has poor support for modern web features including video processing and encoding which makes it very bad at web conferencing/video calls or in-page streaming.
Firefox's developer tools and console is also much worse and missing important features.
Other features Firefox is missing or has poor support for compared to Chromium are WebGPU, WebTransport, Periodic Background Sync, and parts of WebRTC. Plus various APIs for web serial, badging, and Web Share are missing partial or full support.
Firefox still doesn't have functional HDR for images and videos including AV1.
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