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Comment by umanwizard

5 days ago

Er… not at all. NAT and ipv6 are both very widely used, with IPv6 adoption steadily growing over time.

Only due to the mobile device space. It will not take off outside of Wireless telco networks.

Take a look at the IPv6 Google graph that everyone loves so much:

https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html

You can clearly see an initial steep spike to the curve where mobile adoption was new and fierce, and then the curve starts slowly becoming less steep over the last 10 years. It will peter out and remain steady when mobile device adoption reaches critical mass.

  • How do you look at a chart showing Google access is 50% IPv6 and then proclaim that clearly NAT “won out”? In what world is 50% market share a loss?

    • Because all that usage is in one market space, mobile device only. Take mobile devices out of the picture and that graph would be through the floor.

      Mobile and Telco ISPs are the only ones not issueing IPv4 addresses to their clients and this will never change.

      Saying NAT 'Won Out' may have been a bit of a flippant overreacting statement which I apologise for, but IPv6 will never replace IPv4 outside of the mobile space and that was my core point I was (poorly) trying to make.

  • > Only due to the mobile device space.

    You mean the single largest increase in deployed computing devices in the history of computing and fastest growing type of deployment in the developing world? That mobile device space?

    • Yes, that mobile space which is only made up of a few ISP and device types, that mobile device space which is completely seperate to the rest of the internet infrastructure of the world.

  • No, as I pointed out in another reply to you, home internet is commonly dual-stack (at least in the US and many other countries), and machines with dual-stack connectivity can and do use IPv6 to connect to sites that support it. You can verify this yourself using Wireshark or similar tools.

    • Yes, I have done many times. You know what else Wireshark showed me? That even though my ISP and all my equipment have IPv6 addresses, they never use them by default.

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