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Comment by padjo

4 days ago

So capturing a citizen of another country, who happens to be their leader, and spiriting him out of the country is cool with you?

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monerozcash  4 days ago

Your question rests on the assumption that Maduro is the legitimate leader of Venezuela, that's a huge assumption.

  • sph  3 days ago

    You rest on the assumption that a foreign nation can decide who is the legitimate leader or not.

    Ah, but when it's the US it's fine. They're the champions of democracy, aren't they?

    • Fade_Dance  3 days ago

      In general, that term is mostly used outside of the borders of a country looking in. After all, "illegitimate leaders" tend to be authoritarians who take power and quell dissent within the borders.

      Not at all arguing that it somehow leads to justification for an illegal invasion.

      In this specific case the claim comes down to assertions of a sham election. If this was indeed the case (with the lens of an international survey obviously the US view is suspect considering the attack), then the Venezuelan people themselves do not view him as a legitimate leader, which simplifies the situation.

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  • padjo  4 days ago

    No it doesn’t. If he was a fruit vendor in Caracas it would still be outrageous to spirit him out of the country by force.

    • monerozcash  4 days ago

      What if he was the leader of a brutal coup and the legitimately elected government requested foreign help to have him removed?

      It's really really difficult to paint this as inherently bad, it's hard to see how the conclusion here doesn't entirely depend on how you feel about the results of the previous Venezuelan elections.

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