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Comment by dabinat

6 days ago

Trump is a man who will push boundaries further and further until someone physically stops him from doing so. But you don’t need to justify anything if you have full control over people who would normally investigate, prosecute or restrict such things.

Then you put your thumb on the scale (i.e. Texas) so you don’t cede power to the other party in the midterms and then you never need to worry about consequences for your entire term.

It’s a bit more of a problem in 2028 but Trump is term-limited so that’s someone else’s problem.

> Trump is term-limited

There's a pretty well established Turkic solution to that. (Change the constitution. Claim the term limit applied to the old republic and it's your first term actually and go about your day)

  • There's a simpler one: Have Vance run as president with Trump as VP, then Vance immediately steps down on day 1. The Supreme Court will then ignore the intent of the 22nd amendment instead focusing on a narrow interpretation, make up some "this isn't a precedent" one-time ruling that allows it, and ta-da!

    • You seem to assume that Vance is willing to be Trump's puppet. I don't assume that.

      Vance has been willing to ride along with Trump as long as it gets Vance to positions of higher power. But it seems to me that Vance's agenda is Vance, not Trump. I doubt that he'd play that "resign" game. (He might tell Trump that he was going to...)

    • That would be working as intended, besides the resignation. Any ticket with Trump as VP is putting him next in line, as intended.

      The people would be knowingly voting for that, and he would have to win the election of course.

      After a review of the amendment, I don't believe it would be a "narrow interpretation" to read the text of the law and apply it.

      Are you saying it wouldn't be okay for him to be VP and take the helm if Vance died? I think that would be okay, per my reading.

      The deception/switcharoo is a different problem, not really related to running three times. Biden could have made Kamala President Day 1 as well.

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    • Or have a military takeover or manufacture a crisis. At the very least they will claim election fraud and we saw what happened in Trump 1.0. There are definitely many ways MAGA will (likely) remain in power. Fascists don't give up power without a fight.

Hum hum... Bombing of Libya. Support for ISIS against Al Assad in Syria. Doesn't make what happened today right, but it is pretty myopic to see this as unique to Trump or unprecedented.

  • This absolutely nothing at all like Libya, where an ongoing civil war resulted in UN resolutions of force.

    Snatching a national leader of a country with which the US is not at war, has had zero force authorization, off of that leader's own soil, is completely unprecedented, no matter how bad that leader is.

    • Not sure if it's really unprecedented, but I think all wars should be like that. Go kidnap or kill the leader but please leave everyone else alone. Also by all means go and capture the US' leader if you think you need to retaliate.

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