Comment by ponector
3 days ago
That is not a reason why there is a war. The Ukrainian war is an existential one, a continuation of multiple acts of genocide performed by russians for centuries.
That is a big difference between war in Ukraine and war in Iraq or Venezuela.
Russia has unlimited objectives: destroy Ukrainian identity and sovereignty. Annex the country.
While USA has limited objectives, like to overthrow the government.
Russia would be very happy to install a puppet regime in Ukraine, as long as they had some certainty this regime would be stable and subservient to their interests. We know for a fact that they don't care about necessarily invading other countries as long as those countries are subservient: they are not planning to annex Belarus, nor did they have any real problems with Ukraine as long as it was led by their preferred leaders and it was not making any overtures to NATO or the EU.
The exact same thing will happen in Venezuela: the USA will be happy with any leader that they have confidence will represent US interests, stop doing any business with Russia or Iran, and that they think will last. If instead another member of Maduro's party looks likely to win power, either now or in the near future, they will certainly not allow that to happen, even if it were to happen as a result of free elections.
The Russians actually had a puppet regime, which was overthrown by a "revolution".
Yes, they did, and there was no attempt to annex Ukraine before that regime fell, I said as much in my comment.
Note that this is not in any way an attempt to justify Russia's actions, quite the contrary. I'm using the comparison to Russia's obviously horrible actions in Ukraine to condemn the USA's equally horrible actions in Venezuela.
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russian plan was to rebuild USSR/Russian empire which is pretty much annexation
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t2vz4v/ria_news_ac...
> stop doing any business with Russia
No, they'd be fine with that, as long as they get their cut.
Overthrowing government (and installing puppet government) is considered an unlimited objective.
This is what Russians would presumably also do if able.
So your point doesn't stand
Yes and as a corollary, it has nothing to do with Venezuela having the largest oil reserves of any country.
Not a lot since Maduro had no objections to selling the Oil to the US.
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>> Russia stood by while everything Russian, including the Russian language which is the native language of millions of Ukrainians, was facing many restrictions
You think Ukrainians shouldn't decide which language to use? Also russian is native for millions of Ukrainians due to ethnic cleansing done by russians for centuries.
Well behaved governments will provide national minorities with everything they need to feel at home. Bilingual street signs, schools in minority's native language, churches, radio and TV broadcasts in minority's native language etc.
Any government who denies this to their national minorities should be promptly replaced as this kind of disrespect to other peoples' culture, religion and national identity inevitably leads to bad outcomes.
Russia never cared about diplomacy and always wanted to regain the ex-USSR territories back.
This has been confirmed by various Russian declarations and maps.
The diplomatic issues are merely an official stance that is presented to convince the gullible. It's on you if you believe it.
You can look at Moldova, Georgia, Romania and Chechnya for other examples of Putin and Russia's imperialistic ambissions.