Comment by watwut
4 days ago
US does not want to make world democratic. It is actively and systematically trying to weaken democracies and ally itself with autoritarians
Right now, us is ruled by literally fascist party and promoting the same elsewhere.
That "literally" is doing a very heavy lifting
I used literally, because current US goverment fits the definition, supports European fascist parties both with money and with words.
If you look at what Miller, Vance, Hegsberg and the rest of them say and do, you find a huge amount of fascist rhetorics.
Agree. It drives me nuts that people can't see this happening. It's as plain as day.
No, it's not.
Umm, yeah, just go look at Vance's statements about European politics. Literally.
Here are some actual statements from Vance:
>Now, I was struck that a former European commissioner went on television recently and sounded delighted that the Romanian government had just annulled an entire election. He warned that if things don't go to plan, the very same thing could happen in Germany too.
>Now, these cavalier statements are shocking to American ears. For years, we've been told that everything we fund and support is in the name of our shared democratic values.
>Everything from our Ukraine policy to digital censorship is billed as a defense of democracy, but when we see European courts canceling elections and senior officials threatening to cancel others, we ought to ask whether we're holding ourselves to an appropriately high standard. And I say "ourselves" because I fundamentally believe that we are on the same team. We must do more than talk about democratic values. We must live them.
>Now, within living memory of many of you in this room, the Cold War positioned defenders of democracy against much more tyrannical forces on this continent. And consider the side in that fight that censored dissidents, that closed churches, that canceled elections. Were they the good guys? Certainly not, and thank God they lost the Cold War.
>They lost because they neither valued nor respected all of the extraordinary blessings of liberty, the freedom to surprise, to make mistakes, to invent, to build.
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/remarks-the-vice-p...
You are more than welcome to disagree with him, but it's hardly literal fascism advocacy.
3 replies →